Tarkov negative recoil reddit Forgive me if someone has discovered this already but I'm pretty sure no one has posted it yet, anyway the way this is accomplished is by using the standard best in slot build and then adding a nightforce ATACR Every time someone says “it’s only camera recoil” I just show them base AK-105 recoil with no control and they immediately shut up😂 Edit: since a few people have sticks up their asses or are too dense: THIS IS/WAS A JOKE Jesus Christ. In the end, despite this massive arm maneuver on my end, there's really not much difference . Weight can be ignored - mostly, it still matters for some stuff - thermals, DMRs. Convergence: Commonly referred to as "Recoil Autocompensation". This won't SinglePlayer Tarkov Sub-Reddit Home to both AKI and Haru projects. The only real exception to this that I can think of to this would be the sa58 which people usually just make as low recoil as possible. A stock AK working like a Tarkov have stupidly high first shot recoil multiplyer and stupidly high focus on gun modding. So you can have 8 recoil. Log In / Sign Up; Advertise on Fun gun. Whether you're a seasoned veteran or a newcomer, join us and take your gaming experience to the next level! Members Online • luna_violenta1. ADMIN MOD Ak74 I hadn't seen anyone post the updated hidden recoil stats yet after all of the recoil changes recently. Sure, you can pull down hard, but the bullets will still jump around, all over the place. High recoil will give you high bullet spread and the general "bopping" of the weapon when firing. This is a step in the right direction, but the problems of how you can't burst fire and how every gun pivots like crazy still remains due to the recoil system itself. This means that with this attachement you loose 2 recoil. it's actually nice now and the blast mitigation device decreases loudness a bit too. Suppressors should cancel all recoil modifiers on brakes and the brakes all need a buff. I think, might be wrong, but I think tarkov is the only game with camera recoil that's enough to be very impactful in gameplay, which is why this happens. Do you have Skip to main content. I 100% prefer max fov and my survival rate has went up 5% since switching. And will always give 75 votes, 12 comments. Yeah make everything negative nice. And technically -1,5 is higher then -2, cus it's the other end of the scale. Tarkov has the same thing to a certain degree except is much more linear. 1 which was the patch that introduced the terrible recoil system that was just replaced. Of course, they were dime a dozen Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. This dictates how quickly the gun resets I agree with Akari on that one, Recoil is very different per platform. I used a wall for target practice, firing full auto into it with two The weight of the gun also factors into arm stamina. My guess is that no matter how much you reduce the 13 votes, 25 comments. If you find these to be too hard to use, it is a skill issue. It Advertisement Coins. good times, good times. Reply Recoil control needs to be farmed, it just doesn't accrue quickly enough when playing naturally. I see it as objectively bad and wish that given the majority are unhappy with it, people would slap BSG around till they fucking wake up. 860K subscribers in the EscapefromTarkov community. In a sence, gun modding IS a gunplay in this game and dictates the effectivness of your shooting much more then your muzzle control. I was arguing with my friends about it recently , as in the past if my memory isn't wrong, the only value we had was horizontal recoil. (Atleast those who've played long enough to see both sides of the coin) The way this subreddits treats the recoil subject is sometimes just as bipolar as the way Nikita treats the recoil balance changes. more replies. Doublen price of the gun The AS Val used to be THE META - the best gun in the game with almost no need for mods, accessible ammo and negative recoil. This can be May i know what is the best recoil you guys are able to get from AK-104 7. Thanks The most recent Escape From Tarkov patch changed recoil for pistols, shotguns and the SKS, but it has not gone down well with players. That's how we The unofficial subreddit for the video game Escape From Tarkov developed by BattleState Games. Valheim Genshin Impact Minecraft Pokimane Halo Infinite Call of Duty: Warzone Path Controlling full auto recoil take a lot of practice, most people can't. And has very low flesh dmg, it mainly has a high penetration. Recommended Recoil Mods Help me modding Howdy y’all Now that we are all excitedly (and patiently) waiting for the lovely mod teams to patch SPT to the new wipe, I was wondering what are your favorite recoil mods to help get used to the new system? I went into an offline raid to see the exact recoil patterns of a 7. I'm an untrained civilian and can literally control an AK better on full auto than a skilled PMC operator in Tarkov, that's a little weird to me Welcome to the Tarkov subreddit! Find information, insights, and camaraderie for players of Escape from Tarkov. It feels like they are using just on of the 2 vecors. What often comes up in this discussion is that some people don't understand that a big part of recoil is bolt carrier moving back and forth. Realism mod: climbs steadily till you stop firing or hit the upper limit, like virtually every other FPS game. On top of It only gets better ergo. Love the no recoil and it works well with basically any optic and no attachments. to 'fix' this, the animations would have to change, and im not Stamina, weight, ergonomics and recoil control. Personally, I don't mind not shooting back or dying to negative karma scavs, but I posted earlier during the cultist event that I accidentally hit a regular scav mid It's also worth noting that tarkov uses vertical FoV meaning 59 in tarkov is the 90 horizontal most people want. a 60 recoil AKM is amazing to use whereas a 60 recoil M4 or HK feels rather janky. Anything above 80 recoil is hard to manage at full auto. While I like the recoil for the most part I can't stand the first shot bucking your gun way up and the camera recoil is just unwarranted and sloppy. Premium Powerups Explore Gaming. Or check it out in the app stores   The unofficial subreddit for the video game Escape From Tarkov developed by BattleState Games Members Online • Augy4812. there shouldn’t be universal recoil patterns bc that just wouldn’t make sense for what the game is or how the guns work. r/Tarkov A The realistically a accurate recoil m4 has arrived to tarkov after so many years I looked around the internet and reddit and found nothing recent about this Reply reply sanct1x • Just ignore him. In the case of top tier It's -30%, not flat -30. Ergonomics will reduce the weapon dragging and give you a more direct control of swinging the weapon around. Open menu Open navigation Go to Reddit Home. And it's not even the lowest possible vertical recoil build. true. However regardless of the attachments recoil is already greatly reduced because it’s controlled for you. The force that a comes out of the front of the gun will always be the same with the same ammo and barrel. As soon as you change the velocity of that round, you change where in the ellipses of bullet trajectory your sight and bullet cross (zero) but Tarkov doesn't account for different ammo types, so the zero is off if you use better ammo For example 7. Reply reply more reply. However, Unlike IRL, when you slap a suppressor on the muzzle break, the suppressor itself also provides recoil reduction, and the two values STACK. It The unofficial subreddit for the video game Escape From Tarkov developed by BattleState Games If you make the base recoil lower and then make attachments even ignore do you get to like negative recoil? Or do you mean that there should be more depth in modding? Because that I can agree with. Gatekept by Shiro Members Online • flyingninja129 . If you want aim assist this is not the game for you. 7. BSG's attention span is non-existent 24 votes, 18 comments. It's like the recoil is kicking it out of my hands, not shaking around a gopro. Reply reply mushi1996 • Instead of taking recoil down by the 50% they increased. BSG are basically LARPers. It has higher recoil and a tac laser is a must. All of the data was manually entered from tarkov changes since the original author (Tarkov Numbers) hasn't updated their sheet yet as far as I'm aware. This means that 75 fov is like 107 horizontal for most games. Semi-auto is ok at distance, though it should be I don't want it for the negative recoil, but rather he had on the gun a scope which I have been trying to find in game for days and can't find it. ", but when i've come to notice, more than most of the times i get into a fight, even though my gun is pointing somewhat directly on the enemy, i seem to kill them via the legs? Meta recoil guns should be unsuppressed 100% of the time like the AK's are and exposed muzzle brakes (No BMD/CRD) should be recoil meta. Red only means number is lower. we have dispersion, convergence, angle, camera recoil, base vertical recoil, MOA, weight, bullet modifiers that either reduce or increase recoil, if you ask me it's a too difficult to maintain with all the weapons they Increasing recoil or decreasing ergo on a firearm balance takes away from the gameplay and gunplay. (Feels abit like input lag). Whether you're a seasoned veteran or a newcomer, join us and take your gaming experience to the next level! no this isn't a case of git gud, tarkov's recoil system is literality the opposite of skill it's entirely stat based. best rat pistol (and my go to) is Sr1mp. At the time I lost interest in the game rapidly because of how Can we talk about how unrealistic the recoil is in the game currently? For game that strives for realism, why would the most used action in the game be the least realistic? I personally don't Recoil system skill would improve how fast you can shoot precisely in semi auto and reduce a little the full auto but would never make it a laser beam if you keep the optimal Traditionally, FPS's have relied upon two mechanics to represent aiming and recoil. 01 seconds, my ADAR corrects itself in perfect alignment to where I’m intending on aiming. This has way better economics but also higher recoil The unofficial subreddit for the video game Escape From Tarkov developed Advertisement Coins. Also been engaging in more pvp because I have a lot of quest that require it. this means if you aim down a small amount to compensate you will be aiming at the ground in no time. Expand user menu Open settings menu. My friends only came to the game recently and to them vertical recoil is the up and down recoil, but to me it doesn't make sense as the vertical recoil value is always the lowest value when the most important recoil is the up and down. I've decided to play around with server config values to make a reasonable recoil system myself. EFT does it the second way, that's why weapons that can stack many attachments are so good (or were before BSG added weird spray patterns and lowered recoil autocomp). That's without taking into consideration the large 60 or even 100 round magazines, that allows you to exploit the way Tarkov's recoil is modelled the most. You can control the recoil on it fairly easily and if you are using pointfire effectively with lasers, you will land sprays pretty easily. Reply reply KawaWick • Since I and a friend needed some time to realize why my VAL had much higher recoil than his and I never heard anyone talking about this I thought I would share. The problem, this bullet doesn't penetrate over than level 3. ADMIN MOD Has anyone figured out Gunsmith part 1? Question I feel like I’m going crazy, I got the shotgun from mechanic, the plastic pistol EFT patch 14 recoil: climbs steadily for about 5 rounds, then stops climbing entirely and just bounces around, very easy to control. Or check it out in the app stores   The unofficial subreddit for the video game Escape From Tarkov developed by BattleState Games Members Online • HalleyC0met . Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. I'm a val main, but at least to me the val still feels less bouncy maybe that's because of hidden stats but since most of those are gone I'm not sure, or maybe I haven't used the vss enough idk Then on top of fire rates you have disparities between calibers, 50 vert is going to look different across 556, 762x39 etc. Get app Get the Reddit app Log In Log in to Reddit. 916K subscribers in the EscapefromTarkov community. Vectors/UMP are the only 2 that really see any use now and IMO vector is underpowered but too cheap, it should be a no recoil laser that is how the gun works. Here's an updated list and it is cleaned up a bit as well to make it easier to look at. DMR's and UMP seems alight. . Fun tip, the 50 cal mounted machine guns EDIT: Ok, I installed Blast Mitigation Device combo and checked it on single. So all attachments do in Tarkov is make the first 1-5 bullets that you shoot to be more precise. Initial recoil takes a lot of practice to get used to, even with a The number he is talking about is NOT recoil reduction, it is recoil. Nerfing the ergo just means youre tweaking stats for the sake of gameplay balance instead of realism which goes against every reason I play tarkov. So maybe it will help to level the playing field a bit. Or check it out in the app stores   The unofficial subreddit for the video game Escape From Tarkov developed by BattleState Games Members Online • That’s why in meta builds you’ll see recoil be prioritized with long barrels and suppressors when the attachments give large enough recoil reduction to warrant the ergo decrease. I'm fine with 51 recoil mutants and 29 recoil M4's, I'm not fine with the users being untraceable by their gunfighting The issue with Tarkov having insane recoil is that their recoil system is a dispersion recoil system and not a pattern recoil system, meaning you can't 100% control the recoil with the dispersion system. And share parts you used to get it low recoil. This isn't cod or bf. Really painful to progress when I can't even unlock Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. I can get 545 down real low into like the 50s or 60s, but for some reason I don’t feel like I’m hitting shots with it. You can even tear it yourself by building a 33 recoil AKN using the new 7n40 bullets. It's also easier to control after the first few shots because you have a force to push against that you're used to. Welcome to Tarkov, I hope you enjoy the game. And I pop off one Camera recoil is made up by reddit. Ive read it here in the post about endurance. Under 2kg is nice too so I can zoom and be first in and out on various loot runs. But in general it's not something you have to worry about. 62x39 assault rifle? Vertical recoil. The unofficial subreddit for the video game Escape From Tarkov developed The unofficial subreddit for the video game Escape From Tarkov developed by BattleState Games. Or check it out in the app stores   The unofficial subreddit for the video game Escape From Tarkov developed by BattleState Games Members Online • I remember back when you could, theoretically, have negative recoil on the M4. Edit: i did add an image to this post but apparently i didn't do that correctly xD i will try and post an image in a Zeroing in Tarkov is tied to 1 ammo type per gun, as long as you are using that one ammo your zero will be accurate. I think that is a reasonable statement. Another thing to pay attention to this wipe is that focusing on recoil will really tank the ergo of your weapons and personally you should focus on stats that suit your playstyle. 168 votes, 28 comments. . ADMIN MOD What are “good” recoil stats? Question Had the game for about a month and I’m just now getting into messing with SMGs saw moderate use in close quarters, now the recoil is so bad on 9/10 SMGs you’d be better off with a riffle anyway, you were before but now it’s not even close. Welcome to the Tarkov subreddit! Find information, insights, and camaraderie for players of Escape from Tarkov. If you use a Val with a Rotor-43 you can fold your weapon. The Fallout 4 mod I work on has a couple of guns that, if modded "correctly" actually have negative/downward recoil (and others that have literally no vertical recoil at all). To me it didn't matter because I died pretty much the second raid I ever took out the same M4. One random thing I do know is wider FOV makes stuff look farther away so harder Low Recoil = good. Reminds me a bit of As someone on this reddit stated. As you said, once you're negative, you may as well go full negative. Just take in a APB pistol and a few mags and spray the floor at the start of each raid. Any mods that make recoil of "the old" days. The unofficial subreddit for the video game Escape From Tarkov developed I started playing tarkov a few weeks ago I’m level 15: I’m having trouble using full auto guns on anyone who isn’t close to me. See "RecoilCrank" to get guns to recoil backwards as they should. Learn to mod your guns for a recoil number you're comfortable I guess helps too. the bullet goes exactly where the muzzle is pointing, which is how tarkov works. At what point does your recoil get comfortable for you to use? View community ranking In the Top 5% of largest communities on Reddit. Going prone will allow for the slowest drain of arm stamina while ADS. However, PS is very viable still and Most players compare Tarkov recoil to something like pubg and say “why does Tarkov shake so much, this is shit”, “remove aimpunch this is annoying” but they don’t get that the whole concept of Tarkov recoil breaks when you remove the visual hindrances. This is. Basically the end goal is to make stock guns more manageable and to SinglePlayer Tarkov Sub-Reddit Home to both SPT and Haru projects. 949K subscribers in the EscapefromTarkov community. No matter what, I gotta say that it does make the weapons feel a lot better to fire now. But as you just said, M995 is 3 shots, with much less recoil, and twice the rate of fire since a DMR can't shoot faster than 7 shots per seconds, while the M4 is at about 13-14 shots per second. At this point it’s crucial that indie devs know what kind of feedback to accept and in which places they need to double down in The unofficial subreddit for the video game Escape From Tarkov developed by BattleState Games Members Online • MrWheatleyyy . I ended up with 40 ergo and 56 recoil and not overly long barrel. more reply. The gun As his gunfire is about to send me to the lobby, my recoil is just allover the place but a burst of connecting rounds. It's that the sight doesn't follow the barrel, it deviates HEAVILY from true center. It's a negative number. I used to think "I'll pull down, to compensate for the recoil i have. Let's talk about the new recoil Feedback I think it's a step in the right direction, but it might have been too extreme: I've never felt the 12 votes, 24 comments. Members Online • i1_2FarQue If you've played the new live EFT with the improved recoil system and like me, you think it's a wonderful addition, then you definitely need to give recoil tweaker a try. Spraying midrange is a no go. Can be also good in case of recoil. The BT ammo is the best pistol ammo in the game, and you can get the shrimp for a blue gunpowder trade which if you make yourself makes the gun cost about 8000 roubles. But you should check tarkov ballistics page for recoil debuff ammo which to avoid. We offer gameplay clips, discussions, and support, with a strong community and various events. I'm getting utterly steamrolled by squads on GZ. It still has a significant kick and jumps around. I recommend you to ceck ballistics on Tarkov wiki page. 31K subscribers in the Tarkov community. 45 AKs at LL2 traders. EFT's recoil is easier to control, whether or not that's a good thing depends on the user. Reply reply More replies. Under 50 you start getting into Negative, while I agree with the premise of what you are saying, the former didn't articulate very well what was meant. A big problem right now is that "meta builds" create almost zero-recoil guns. Yeah, I thought so. 45 cartridge has slightly less power than 5. Log In / Sign Up; Advertise on 53 votes, 28 comments. The first we'll look at, is what I'm going to call the "bloom" or "dispersion" area. As you all probably know there are some questions to the vanilla Tarkov recoil modding system. r/EscapefromTarkov A chip A close button. The unofficial subreddit for the video game Escape From Tarkov developed Tarkov's muzzle breaks provide a base recoil reduction, as they do IRL. And the m4 is moreof a smg short range with a nice snipe opportunity. TL;DR - a hidden weapon recoil stat number is the source of both the infamous "recoil compensation" and, in a roundabout way, the "insane burst recoil" and needs to be adjusted in I started playing tarkov a month before 12. First off, we need to remember there alot of The 995 is mid tier ammo in my opinion, it has +8 or +10 recoil debuff which is insanely high. At this point I don't want "original" experience of Tarkov with whatever sick in My opinion on how to fix it: In tarkov recoil feels like its going just straight up. 39 US bullet gives you -20 recoil, and the spread is just vertical , so it's pretty easy to counter. Increasing recoil across the board makes meta guns feel required to have a usable gun Discussion Nikita has said multiple times that they don't want there to be metas but with the current state of recoil i feel like a large amount of guns (M4S AKS As it stands, I "control" recoil in Tarkov by slamming my mouse down in the initial burst, and slamming it back up again to compensate for the automatic compensation. 50 in tarkov means 79 horizontal. Is there a mod that is decently close to the new recoil system, preferably as a standalone mod? I know there's a recoil module in Realism, but the description made me think it was more of its own recoil system than something approximate to live. Posted by u/Khannay - 12 035 votes and 614 comments Then you mod for lowest recoil you can get (again, with stuff available from traders, no reason to pay 50k for one point of recoil less). You really Yes recoil is too high, No laser beams aren't fun either, I think everyone agrees with me here. 62 AKs have much higher recoil and are much more difficult to manage compared to 5. Anyone knows something i could change here? Another option is going for the Gral-S Pistolgrip with the Colt A2 backend. And first shot recoil multiplyer renders short bursts almost useless. Reduce the initial kick on most guns by 30-40% In case of m4/hk 50-70% Ad a more in-depth recoil feeling. 0 coins. Now shut the fuck up and laugh or leave. Then again there have been attempts already, just wish it can become a large enough sentiment with influencers behind it to finally make the game work. But it’s the easiest recoil to control imo of the pistols. EDIT: I stand corrected, it's flat -30. 62x39mm AKM, and instead of learning valuable information, I came out more confused than when I went in. more replies . Factors that affect recoil your player will automatically "pull down" after 3-5 shots have been fired. -> Recoil control is very much favored over ergonomics Recoil control: very straightforward, makes the gun have less recoil Ergonomics: less straightforward, decreases ADS time and sound. At least with a recoil pattern, even if the recoil is super high, if a player practices a lot, can get But Tarkov forces it, and again the issue comes down to, as a player, you are helpless against it BECAUSE its automated Much like a Manual vs an Automatic transmission They both do the same thing, but the Manual, a driver has Get the Reddit app Scan this QR code to download the app now. Even fully meta the val has either 1 less recoil with worse ergo or a couple more ergo with 1 or 2 higher recoil. the At the last . That movement actually compensates some of the "gas blowout" recoil as it makes the gun dip before So after some testing i think this is the best M4 (with focus on recoil) possible. Skip to main content . Personally I used 59 more many many wipes but it seems like the game is just designed for 50 so this wipe I've stuck with 50. Thx for the tip :) skwish-17 • Additional comment actions. But for a lot of the die-hard Tarkov players pointfiring with a laser was already really easy. The vector was literally designed to have negative recoil on full auto. Start a burst aiming at your target's head, end it by hitting them in the gut, that's how bad it is on one particular example. I hate predictable recoil (like Rusts old system) but I don't think Tarkov has found the balance yet. Or check it out in the app stores   The unofficial subreddit for the video game Escape From Tarkov developed by BattleState Games Members Online • jcar99. It either greatly reduced the recoil or increases ergo. So i've had this somewhat big of an issue when it comes to aiming, and i'm unsure if i should pull my recoil up or down anymore. If you go to the best penetration bullet, BP 7,63 you will see it gives you +10 recoil and reduce accuracy. 56, and the average AK weighs a lot more than the average The tarkov recoil system singlehandedly is what ruins tarkov for me. Many, MANY reflex's do this, including Do you remember the glitch of negative recoil and the gun was a literal 0 shaking laser ? Well it turns out even with those bugged stats it shakes around. It's a marksman rifle with low recoil now basically and before, felt like the silencer added too much awkardness in the model of 'the pmc tries to control the recoil', this would be the correct behavior. you're not the only one loads of people absolutely hate recoil in tarkov, if you want to play you'll need to use the guns that are considered meta. Get app Get the However, I feel like I practically have to be tugging on my enemies nuts to effectively utilize the recoil. My guess is this is when you have a too complicated system to handle recoil, BSG just puts in some numbers and think it's fine, I mean look. We plan on fixing it Recoil is the force a gun imparts on its operator, muzzle rise is the "perceived recoil" Recoil can't be negated. This is the primary reason the M4, HK, MK-47 are so OP, its because these muzzle break/suppressor combos offer quite literally double the recoil As a perfect example. You get all of the tarkov-bullshit recoil of the first couple of shots, and none of the benefits of not going full auto. I go into get into a gunfight, and Skip to main content. In all the games I've played, Tarkov is the only game where I've had to actively push upwards to counteract recoil. He's a fucking idiot. The devs took notice and after a bit they made the Val unusable over 20m, but an issue persisted - the 30 rounder still costed over 40k from vendors. Anakonda347 • Step 2: Remove the ridiculous burst/first shot muzzle climb Reply reply stifflizerd • Burst fire is literally unusable. Using a vector Haven’t noticed any negative accuracy effects either. Welll recoil control is a skill? One you level up? Are you holding your breath? Get gud I guess. High Ergonomics = good. Valheim Genshin Impact Minecraft Pokimane Halo Infinite Call of Duty: Warzone Path of Exile Hollow Knight: Silksong Escape from Tarkov Watch Dogs: Tarkov recoil is the dumbest thing I have ever come across in the FPS world, but here is how it works. Yesterday I built an M4 that had around 60 vertical recoil and decent ergo, and was pretty excited to use it. I like taking it to kill raiders on Reserve. Welcome to the Tarkov subreddit! Find information, insights, and camaraderie for Skip to main content. Recoil should firstly go towards the pmc and then up if the shooter doesnt compensate for it. Some guns will have low recoil in their stock form so adding attachments that add more ergo over less recoil is ideal. Personal preference I play a lot of games max fov but started tarkov at 59 because I was told it’s the standard. More replies. Reply reply FebruAhri • the 5. [deleted] • Additional comment actions. Trying to make recoil make sense . 282 votes, 147 comments. cec zypkr nxdx gwsht homg wzgnzti qwyrk vyofkxs gfv eqmlvulv