Diesel zf5 to 460. 1994 F-350 DRW PS w/ zf5 1996 Town Car.

• Diesel zf5 to 460 84 ) (No reviews yet) Write a Review Diesel Conversion Specialists 760 Airport Rd. 08 2nd Gear: 2. These are good and decently tough transmissions just not what I would call a performance or race ready trans. I've chirped and spin on the 2-3 shift plenty of times, generally beat on the trans, pull a 4500 lbs trailer, go off roading, had plenty of wheel spin with 39" tires, etc. I have come across a few for a 460. Will properly mate the ZF5 to 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - 460 to diesel zf5 - When reading and searching I kept coming up with conflicting answers on whether or not a zf5 could be interchanged from gas to diesel. I've done this on my crew cab. Only Rated to 420 ft/lbs of torque (for the common s5-42), some are rated to 470 t/lbs (s5-47, only 2 yrs production though and maybe only behind diesels but bell can be drilled to mount to 460). C6 to zf5 speed swap complete! Thread starter That'd be the correct way to do it, hard to even find a zf5 f250 for sale in AZ. At the time they had the zf5-42 and had a mid 4 1st. Can do freight from my work. 2012 f250 6. or Best Diesel. Will a clutch made for a 460 ZF5 work on a 12. AmongHidden. ZF S5-42 and S5-47 5 speed manual transmission specs, ratios, and information. Joined Jan 17, 2008 Posts 177 Reaction score 0 The 460 bellhousings have the same cutout on the bottom, it's only the small block stuff that has the flat mounting face. It currently has a 4 speed manual in place. I don't know if the close ratio diesel gearset will fit the Modular pattern ZF. J. I have a 1992 460, and want to install it, using the ZF6 tranny. now the A ZF5 from a 460 will "fit"; it will NOT bolt up without modifying the bolt pattern (which people have done; it's that close). Intercooler, MB diesel hpop, driven diesel complete efuel, 6637 air filter, kingpin dana 60. Noisy, ugly and most of the time it even all works. Clutch, transmission, rear axle. Manual transmission crossmember From any zf5 truck, gas or diesel. 1x bw4407 1x Hydraulic clutch master/slave from the 97 f350 that had the s5-470 I am looking at a 1994 F350 CCLB with a 460 and 5 Speed man. Ill say one last thing, this is from months almost years of research but no expiriance. $350. 00 . Come join the discussion about PowerStrokes, performance, modifications, troubleshooting, towing capacity, maintenance, and more! Conversion Kit: 1988-1997, 460 gas, ZF5, to 1998. I've pulled the C6 and I'm coverting the truck to a manual with a 460 ZF5 with "typ4" modifications to make it work on the IDI. The 351w seems like a powerful loud motor I have a ZF5 & adapter plate to go with a ZF 5 Speed from a 460 = 385 family pattern. 7L Power Stroke Diesel; 6. 73 gears P3000, marine 370 pistons, marine 370 injectors, 191 DV's, 4K GS's Colt Stage 3 "Big Stick" cam, #0 plate full forward, HX35/HE351 hybrid, custom header, ebay intercooler, 4" straight pipe exhaust The 460 pattern and the 7. PM me, I guess I could ship if you arrange it. It wasn't. 3idi. 9L or 7. i got a 460 engine and i want to put a ZF 5 transmission behind it. The shape of the housing is the same big block and diesel, the top 2 holes are very close, that is it. 3L Power Stroke Diesel - '92 F350 gas to diesel conversion - I have a '92 F350 4x4 cc with a 460 gas and zf5. Thanks! Top. 3 zf5. fuzzydog Full Access Member. Iv heard people say a cummins will turn them to box of marbles but they also had never done the conversion either. This is the 460 pattern version of the plate but t Just make sure it came from a diesel, I first used the zf5-47 from my 460 engine and I hated the gear spread reminded me of my old 1st Gen Getrag trans. 31 5th Gear: 1. 400 HP and about 550 ft/lbs according to DesktopDyno. The transmission must be from a 4x4 truck if your vehicle is a 4x4. . 00434" preload. 3 idi turbo and non, and 460 are all inter changeable. i have new single flywheel and clutch kit but the bellhousings are not compatible. 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks. Took me awhile to figure that out while lying under I have a sweet 1996 F250HD with a gas 460 and a ZF5 speed. Spec is 0. I'm doing the swap on a 1989 F350 2wd that i will use for towing. Early '95 and previous will be a "5S-42" model. Thanks in advance for any answers that might help this new member out Also the 91 diesel zf5 has **** PORE gearing. 1x An older adapter kit circa 2010 (unsure of brand) with dual disc 12” clutch setup, flywheel starter etc. The only difference is the starter mounting holes, very different. 3 diesel. You cannot change them on the automatics or the ZF trannys. 3. 9L) Bio-diesel, Propane & Alternative Diesel Engine Fuels; Competition No the diesel and gassers have differant bell housings, the top bolts will line up but all the rest are about 1/2" off, plus I think the dowell pins will not line up also. 9L) - ZF5 swap into 6. The trans is disassembled and I have new sychros and bearings to put in it, so I can stand the case upright to work on it. I've got the 460 ZF5 but do not know what the differences are. They both have pros and cons. 3 into the F350 what issues would I run into as far as matching the 7. 3IDI and 5speed. I re-drilled the 460 ZF to fit my 7. You bolt it on using the two top bolts which do line up, and then use the adapter as a drill Getting ready to start my second conversion and I have one question that I cannot find a definite answer to. 95 40% off. Also, will the diesel version of the ZF work with an adaptor, or Does anyone know the max horsepower and torque a 460 ZF-5 speed can handle? How well do they hold up to higher hp and torque numbers. after a long delay (25 years) I'm finally getting the free time (now retired) and ambition (I'm lying) to make this happen. Help needed for 460 engine swap. You will have to redrill some mounting holes in the bellhousing. Remember like i said the ZF5 has an Integral Bellhousing, when i did my NV4500 in my 93 6. The housing on the ZF is integrated and the bolt pattern on the 351 is different. 85 F250 4x4 w/ 6. Also it seems the diesel ZF5 we'll start with will be a 2wd model, thus the toy-truck needs to be a 4x4. It was a replacement for the T19 BorgWarner 4-speed that was used in prior F250 and F350 models. For these you run the 94-01 dodge 5 speed flywheel and clutch and a Ford diesel starter. The modular ZF uses an 1 1/4" input, but have never tried. I have a '96, 7. Will a zf5 hold up to a. However, I've read just what the differences are. I hear these crack the bellhousings fairly often, so anyone have one lying around? Busted Budget Offroad | Wanted: a 4wd Diesel ZF5 (prefer diesel, but 460 or 351 will work too) for a How easy is it to get a 460 ZF5 to bolt up to a 7. 3 in my 92 F350 C&C 4x4, I just had to re-drill the case for the bolts and dowels, enlarge a couple holes. 9 turbo. After drilling. 9L) - 1985 F350 460 to IDI swap? - I have a very nice 1985 F350 DRW crew cab 4x4 460 4spd. 56RearEnd. some good questions i need answered. my buddy has a 97 f350 4x4 5spd w/460 he wants to swap the 460 for the 7. C6 to ZF5. 9 Cummins. Joined Jun 12, 2009 Posts 596 Reaction score 8 Location Plover, WI. The Bronco had a 351M/C6/NP203 and 3. 00079"-0. 9L) Bio-diesel, Propane & Alternative Diesel Engine Fuels; Competition 1x zf5 460 s5-470 with a bent shift fork WR 2x zf5 460 s5-420 good runners WR 1x destroked adapter kit with a 13” single disc clutch flywheel starter etc. 1994. The ZF5 manual 5-speed has proven to be a very nice addition to every vehicle we have installed it in. 3 diesel with a ZF6 tranny. 9L) - 87 6. Now that my son-in-law TyBragg and I have aquired a running '94. I put a 460 in a diesel truck with the zf and I drilled the bellhousing to fit. The tranny and engine are good in this truck. The truck currently has a 460 and zf5 speed. Moderators: FORDification, 70_F100. 0L Power Stroke Diesel; 1999 - 2003 7. Low miles, no rust, awesome interior, the AC even works! I bought this truck a year or so Instead of running my 73' 460 though I'm dropping in the 96' injected 460 that I pulled out of the donor truck with the ZF, so I don't have the flywheel issue. But wait, you can make it fit. I ask cus I have a ZF5 thats 4wd with the t-case for a 460. I'm thinking the close ratio Ford ZF5 5-speed standard transmission Diesel bellhousing S5-42 close ratio 4 wheel drive Will work behind ‘83-‘97 6. blue original idi holes pink idi dowels green 460 bolts brown 460 dowels red 460 starter. The small block ZF can't accept the close ratio diesel gearset because the 1 1/4" diesel input shaft will not fit in the small block case. they came behind the 460's and powerstrokes. Might be able to drill them out, but I don't think it'll be quite right. 3IDI. Also the 91 diesel zf5 has **** PORE gearing. Just acquired an 89 F250 4x4 with 7. 00. Powerstroke ZF5 to a IDI truck? Thread starter R This should be a thread resurrection haha I am getting ready to do a zf5 swap from a 97 Powerstroke to a 92 Idi. 5-2002 Cummins 24 Valve; Conversion Kit: 1988-1997, 460 gas, ZF5, to 1998. This clutch is rated for 400 hp and 800 ft/lbs of torque. Will they bolt up? And also can I re use the fly wheel pressure plate clutch etc? Jan 16, 2020 #8 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - 351w to 460 Swap? - Hey yall im considering this summer when i have money to swap out in my 351w to a 460. $5,440. I know I spent a lot of time looking for mine, since it was a small block gas 4x4. 9/7. 1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks - 460 swap, ZF questions, bolt pattern & spline - I've a 78 Bronco that is yearning for a 460 swap,. Free shipping. 7l powerstroke crew cab long box With his kit you just need to add a 460 clutch kit and a 351W auto tranny starter. kas83 Full Access Member. 97. 9L) Bio-diesel, Propane & Alternative Diesel Engine Fuels; Competition 90 F350 S/C Dually Lariat 460/ZF-5sp, Banks Power Pack, Camper Pkg, 4:10's Want a Diesel! Diesel YJ, bay-BEE, and not a cookie-cutter 4BT conversion! Save Share Reply Quote Like. 9 or 7. Zf5 7. I do know the diesel version is closer ratio. 3L Power Stroke V-8 diesel (7. He broke it and I want him to fix it. swap in a good diesel zf5 and be done with it in a day. truck will be 95% street use so the 1st gear of the wide ratio/gas version, 5. From any zf5 truck, gas or diesel. 3 an most are 2wd i have a 4wd frame an everything. Goes from 6. Don’t remember the size of the second tank but it was ridiculously small, I thought of it more as a reservoir tank that an zf5-47 is the big block/diesel 5 speed tranny you'll want. The 7. 9 diesel, ZF5 trans, custom wastegated turbo, rebuilt engine (twice) exhaust brake and lots of other stuff. 3 but cant say I have seen the reverse. However, the 460 and the diesel engines share the same bolt pattern. Pre-Owned. the autos bolted the same but the gearing and shifters are different. 55:1 gears and 35x12. 3 or 460 transmissions; NP243c Chevy Transfer-case Manual Conversion Kit; NP273F Manual shift conversion kit; Shop; Wild Horse MFG We no longer offer adapter plates for the Ford ZF5 5 speed transmissions but this page will be left up for swap info / part numbers for previous customers and the info will work with A forum community dedicated to all Ford Diesel owners and enthusiasts. DMG Red Skull Member. Pedal assembly (clutch and brake) From Anyone know the differences between the ZF-5 speed manual in the 97 F350 gas and diesel trucks. 3 psd i am putting it together from 2 wrecked trucks and am mostly goign to use it for towing a dump trailer and excavator and skid steer. 5 F250 Description. 9L) - 1987 460 zf5speed to 1989 7. Personally, I think the E4OD gear spacing is almost to far apart to do much towing with and even with the diesel zf5 sometimes you wish This South Bend Clutch is for the Ford diesel & 460 ZF-5 speed. Engine Swaps. 3psd. Nov 5, 2010 #2 O. I've got the 460 out but I was wondering what modifications I would have to make for everthing to come together like it should. 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - Zf5 7. It will be in a tow rig looking for the best of both worlds as far as clutch. The other 4 and the dowel holes are not even close, there are no starter bolt holes in the diesel zf5. my questions are I have a 92 460 clutch/flywheel set up here that I have left over from my diesel swap if you need any part numbers or sizes. 9L) - zf5 bellhousing switchover - I have a 86 F250 w/ 6. how do I identify a diesel zf5? Thread starter fuzzydog; Start date May 6, 2009; May 6, 2009 #1 F. Wyofordguy. (460) V8: The S5-47 variant, handling its high torque output with ease. I have a pic that shows that you can drill the diesel to fit 460. Includes choice of clutch kit Diesel Conversion Specialists 760 Airport Rd. If you are planning on high performance upgrades, consider a 6 speed swap- as the Cummins will produce more torque than this I know the c6, at least, was different between the 6. Destroked. Save Share 1994. I'm located in northern Indiana. 3 to 460 swap - I have a 1999 F350 with a blown 7. com sells an adapter plate to go from Cummins to Diesel ZF-5 and a different one to go from Cummins to Gas ZF-5 but their website doesn't say whether its the SBF or the 94 F-250 reg cab 4x4 5spd 7. 3 bell housing, dual mass flywheel and clutch if I am understanding everything ZF 5 speed to 460 engine. 66 s42 diesel gear ratios 1st Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case - 460 Manual Transmission(ZF 5spd) - I want to put a pre emission 460 engine in my '59 but MUST have a manual tranny. The ZF S5-42 was introduced sometime during the 1987 model year and was optional in 6. 9 IDI - So I've been doing some reading on here and from what I understand a ZF5 is basically a direct bolt in in place of the T19 4spd. 3 diesel which has the same bolt pattern as the 460 gas motor. 460 swap in 77 F250 questions 1980 - 1986 Bullnose F100, F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - 460/C6 swap to 7. Save Share Reply Quote Like. If I where to put the 7. 3L DIT) Ford 7. 9L) Bio-diesel, Propane & Alternative Diesel Engine Fuels; Competition 1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks - How to tell if it's a 460 and ZF5? - How do I recognize a 460? I'm not interested in the 460 itself, but rather the ZF5 transmission attached to the 460. oh and someone needs to move this to the tech section if it is worthy. 3 IDI, ZF5, to 1998. I put the Preload shims on the backside of the case to make sure the shorter input shaft would engage the Clutch as much as possible. Come join the discussion about PowerStrokes, performance I used the my 96 Fords 460's ZF and I didn't like the gear spread, I replaced it with the ZF5-42 Diesel trans and it's much better. Come join the discussion about performance, builds, ecodiesel, towing capacity, modifications You can use a 460 ZF5 on an IDI if you do the "typ4" mods. 1994 F-350 DRW PS w/ zf5 1996 Town Car. com to make that tranny work. 8 and D35 with 3. Was told unit was rebuilt Ford Diesel Forums. /lbs. 3 diesel are very different. Truck hauls ass and cruises just under 2000 RPM at 70 MPH getting 12. Autoworld sells them for about $740 plus $15 shipping. Every gear shifts perfectly. Dunno if this is going to work without a bunch of firewall and pedal linkage modification yet. I want to take the tranny off of the 1991 4BT ZF5 NP205 8. 2. 5-2002 Cummins 24 Valve. Replacing the master and/or slave cylinder on a ZF 5 speed system is not a big chore on 1987 to 1999 - 2016 Super Duty - 7. 3 ats and intercooled with cut down 2000 ps cooler, bigger turbo comp,head studs, torque cam, coated rockers , 1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks - C6 to ZF5 (460) Build Report - I've recently completed a swap from a C6 to a ZF5 out of an 88 F250 in my 79 F250 4x4. 0 starter. I have an adapter plate off of my old engine to use as a template. Rob02F350 Discussion starter. 9 and 460 engines, and the 7. The mounting years are good and the housing itself is good but one of the transfer case bolt mount is broken as seen in the picture. As long as it's a 460 ZF5, you can pull the steel adapter plate off the back of the engine, and use I run one in my Supercab, 6000 lbs truck, Desktop Dyno says 400 HP, 550 ft/lbs. 8" on 37's. Joined May 20, 2020 Member Number 495 Messages 2,429. 3 powerstroke with the 5spd. 9 / 7. The ZF5 transmission has been in Ford trucks since 1987. Save Share to install a 6 core 7. 50:1 gears. I have a complete 1995 7. 3L Power Stroke Diesel; 1994. Looking to swap out my auto for a manual this summer can you guys help me out on a parts list this will be my first big project and hope it goes smoothly. Come join the discussion about performance, modifications, troubleshooting, engine swaps, transfer I have a 460 4x4 ZF behind a 7. The ZF will have to be from a 460 or 7. While the ZF5 is generally 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - 460 c6 to zf5 swap - Hey I've been searching and there's a lot for diesel but can't find any for the 460 any more. The top two bolt hole need to be drilled to 1/2 inch. Includes choice of clutch kit; Conversion Kit: Ford 1987-1994, 6. mattswan267 Discussion starter The close ratio diesel gears fit in the 460 gas case and vise versa. 9L/7. 3, I went ahead and bought a zf5. Gear ratio difference has no impact on whether it can be done. NEW OEM Ford Manual Transmission Single Mass Flywheel E8TZ-6477-B 6. 9 F250 4x4 Holset turbo zf5 (sold) 2006 F250 4x4 6. Jul 6, 2015 #9 K. i know i can get to 25 or 30mpg with these 460's. 3 powerstroke? 1995 ford f350 crewcab longbed 7. 9 and a c6. 91 F350 crew cab 4x4 7. 5L) gasoline engine. Where you could run into trouble is if it came out of a truck with the 351. If you're going 4BT, then that tranny is perfect. The stroke -47 model had the lower 5. Long story short I got everything in and I went to put the starter on and it seems to be about an inch short the gear to touch the flywheel. Conversion Kit: Ford 1987-1994, 6. 400m swap to 460/zf5 help. 0 non wastegated exhaust housing ww2 and 360 thrust kit. Joined Dec 24, 2005 Posts 9,131 Reaction score 1,427 Brand Specific Tech. He is 19 and he needs to learn. 5 - 1997 7. This kit allows you to use the ZF5 5-speed transmission from a late model F-250/F-350 pick-up that ran a 460 engine. and as far as trans go, the zf5 trans in the 6. 3 idi? Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7. Oh man!! This seems awesome! Question is how much power can be put to the ZF5 before the thing self destructs and are there versions to hook up to the NP205 transfer case to have 4X4? The diesel has a different bolt pattern for Well, if you've got a 460 T19 behinde your diesel, the bellhousing is a diesel bellhousing. I was wondering, if I bought this, what else would I need to get to swap out the C6 in my truck. 3 any problems ? I am looking at some of interoir parts ( seats trim) Okay guys chime in with the info:nod: Plan is to swap a 12v 5. General Diesel Discussion; 3. 50 gears. Ford ^^^^^ In case you don't already know this, you're also going to need to re-drill the case on that 460-mated ZF5 to mate it to an IH diesel. There isn't any way to modify two holes and The transmission can be from any 7. Joined May 31, 2020 Member Number 1703 Messages 302 Loc just not seeing the payoff over a ZF5 in a 460 truck unless it's something awesome . 2 posts • Page 1 of 1. The bb case is relatively cheap if you have all the innards. 3 has a adapter plate from international to zf5 and there post online how to drill and make them interchangeable or use a transmission out of 93 460 ZF5 to 96 7. Have a diesel ZF5 with good cases. 23 s47 gear ratios 1st Gear: 5. This adapter plate utilizes a 2003-2007 Ford 6. Designed and built by the German company, ZF Friedrichshafen, the ZF5 transmission was available in both gas and diesel models of the Ford F-250, F-350, and F-450 trucks. Now the question is is there a HUGE difference in power between a 351w and a 460. Sep 25, 2017 #11 argve Resident Fruitcake. What you do is take the international/Ford adapter off the back of the diesel block. 3 radiator next. So my question being is, can you use a 460 zf behind a diesel?? I would just like to hear it from a few well rounded diesel guys before I just take a chance a buy one. 3 tranny swap to 460 - Alright guys I have a project that I am attempting to get done. You can change the housings out on the T18 and T19. Have a 84 F350 Crew Cab 4x4 with 460/C6. 3) fit a 460? are the bolt patterns the same between these engines or will an adapter be needed? Thanks 1988 F250 7. Thread check in the next coming weeks and I was talking to my friend who explained that he can get me a pretty good deal on a ZF5. 54 gears HE351cw/hx55 compounded turbos, Hamilton 181/210 cam The gear ratios can be an issue but with a good powerful diesel you could go with the gassre trans for a long time. 3 to 460? - I was wondering if this is applicable I have a 91 f350 7. I worry about my ZF5. 3 adapter? - is there an adapter for a 1987 460 zf trans to install in a 1989 7. Oh yes, and a ZF5 from a 460. super duty turbo with 1. 3L IDI Adapter Plate- Adapts a 1988-1997 Ford ZF5 manual transmission from behind a 460 (7. 1973 - 1979 F-100 & Larger F-Series Trucks. And a zf5 will bolt right in, while a zf6 will take some "persuading" if you get my drift ZF6 gear ratios 1st Gear: 5. Mvanhelden 26 Wheeler. i have read online the swap is Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7. I really want at least a 5spd, I'd like to be You can only use the 460 ZF5 behind out IDIs. I am attempting to swap a 7. 96 F350 SC dually zf5, 4x4, 92 12v, THD 5x12's, THD fuel pin, THD HVLP with adjustable fuel pressure mod, WM, hx35 ( Sold ) Diesel. These transmissions work ok behind the Cummins, but the gas versions may have wider spacing in the gear ratios than the diesel versions. 3 or 6. Aug 27, 2007 #10 typ4 Supporting Member. 9 into it and a ZF5 Diesel transmission! I had a 460 gas f250 of that generation back in the day with dual tanks (dang thing got 10mpg everywhere it went regardless of load or driving style). Learning as much as I could. 3L Power Stroke equipped Ford pickups. I worry about it. This South Bend Clutch is for the Ford diesel & 460 ZF-5 speed. The adapter fits on 351M/400 engines. I would think going the other way would work but the easist way to make sure would be to use a BBF C6 trans "spacer" plate as a guide to see if the meat is there to drill on the ZF. The marginally stronger S5-47 was later introduced for the 1995 model year and retired after 1997 in favor of a 6 speed gearbox from ZF. 3 to 460? 91f350idiats. 3 uses the same block. However, I have a 89 diesel zf5 in the bed of the pickup, so I can measure it, if have the gasser measurement to campare it to I have a ZF5 with the 460 bolt pattern to put in my IDI. but if you find a zf5 for a diesel you could do it . I have notes on swaps using the 7. I did it on mine first time around. LWB, 2WD, Crew Cab,ZF5, 4. 3 diesel ZF five four-wheel-drive tail housing. Everything else being equal. 3 turbo diesel in my 2000 F250 4x4. Looking to swap the Crew Cab over to diesel. Is the zf5 good for the job or is it worth swapping in a nv4500? Thanks!!-Jon CJ The wife's truck: 1994 F350 Super Cab XLT 7. 3L, Dana 60 swap, Front & rear sway bars, ZF6 SIX SPEED Swap!, NV271 Transfer case, 4. 1187 posts · Joined 2009 Add to quote You can modify a 460 zf to fit the 7. its Or do we need a 460 truck due to its 1-1/4" shaft matching the diesel size? Engine size (351 or 460) of toy truck is all the same as far as intended use goes, gears compatibility with the diesel trans will be the deciding factor. 3 idi that had e4od . 400-500hp cummins, will tow about once a week and will get rode hard a few times. OUO trac bars. 9L IH & 7. One is from a 460 gas engine, the other is from a 6. Brand New. Wiring is simple also I chose to go with a 1 wire alternator instead of using a external regular on the Dodges alternator. I'll post a few thoughts in hopes that they'll help the I have driven both the ZF-5 and the ZF-6 and to say the least they are NOT smooth transmissions to shift. Engine: 1989-2002 Cummins Transmission: The best way to identify if you have a gasoline version of the ZF5 is the . Here are the "typ4" mods being made to the 460 ZF5. I want 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - 460 to diesel zf5 - When reading and searching I kept coming up with conflicting answers on whether or not a zf5 could be I know that when you do a cummins conversion, they sell different adapter plates for the gas zf5 and the diesel zf5, so they have to be different. 3 diesel 4x4 ZF5. Here are the "typ4" mods being made to the 460 ZF5, the top holes were increased to 1/2 inch, the diesel adaptor plate bolted on and then used as a template for the remaining bolt holes/dowel holes: Hey there Rob. I intend to do new bearings, syncros, and anything else the diesel ZF5 needs to put behind my 6. and would like to trade for a Diesel. 9 Diesel ZF5 (For: Ford) Opens in a new window or tab. A friend of mine made it work, but then swapped out the case for a bb case because of some clutch difficulties. 1995 F250 4X4 F350 Conversion 690,000 miles! 7. 3 IDI ZF5 F350, to a 1997 F350 with a 460. Then it has a Diesel Conversion Specialists adapter plate to bolt it all up to your 12v. This is his first diesel. Mine was supposed to be from a diesel stuck behind a 460. I made some plates to drill it to fit my 460 and I have had 50k troublefree miles. 3 diesel engine (small block gas will not work, big block 460 gas will work with modification I'm not getting into here). then at some point change internals. $209. Late 95 to 97 will be a "5S-47" model. However, a few years later the ZF5 tranny came out behind 460, among other engines, and the 460 shares a bell-housing pattern with the 351M/400's. SW Hutchinson, MN 55350 Browse by Make Of Truck, Year Of Truck & more Hide Filters Show Filters Diesel. 4/6. now ZF5 1992 F250 7. 4" lift an 36x12. a gas ZF5 has a 385-block pattern, and a diesel ZF5 has the International pattern. 3L diesel engines. Uses Ford 6. A Ford release bearing and clutch alignment tool is included. Some of the articles you are reading may be for the diesels. 3 diesel 4x4 auto E4OD. A forum community dedicated to Cummins 4BT Diesel owners and enthusiasts. You could also go with the Dodge NV4500 5 speed but you still have to come up with a flywheel. I have one in my '86 F-250 with 460, Dana 60 front (6000 lbs truck). But, the flywheel on the 460 is ~1/2" further aft than that of the M-block pair, so while 7. As you may already know it is a direct bolt on to a 460, however it also directly bolts onto a 351M and 400, the only problem is it You can make the diesel bellhousing work on a 460, but you have to redrill 2 (?) holes and change the location of the alignment dowel. Short answer, no the 460 zf5 will not fit the diesel. 4L Power Stroke Diesel; 6. Come join the discussion about performance, bulletproofing, modifications, classifieds, troubleshooting, maintenance, and more! A buddy of mine has a chance at a 97 f260 x-cab 4x4 w/ 7. 00 6th Gear: 0. 5 wrangler r/t millitary -oz Learn about the ZF5 transmission, including the differences between the ZF S5-42 and S5-47. 9 diesel. 5L V-8 gas (460 CID) Applicable Transmission(s): ZF S5-42 & S5-47 five speed manual. The 460 ZF will have to have the Bell Housing holes re-drilled. There's a guy out here selling a ZF5 and Tcase (I think it was from a 91 4x4 diesel) for around $800. Jeff87. I'm not certain about crossmembers from M5OD transmissions. i want to ditch the e40d and go with a zf5 but is there anyone who can build a really reliable e40d that will hold up to the abuse of moving 15-20,000 lbs daily. Adding to cart The item has been added Diesel Conversion Specialists 760 Airport Rd. The s5-42 tranny has different ratios than ths s5-47. It replaced Ford’s BorgWarner T-19 4-speed manual transmission and was first used in its diesel F-350 two-wheel-drive model late in 1987. 3 (with or without the E4OD) to the F350 drive train. May 7, 2009 #6 david85 Full Access Member. I've been told I drive my 460 like a diesel, usually shifting by 2000RPM as torque is plentiful off idle. 3 vs 460 ZF5 - I've read a lot about the bell housings being different between the 460 and 7. hesutton. A lot of people swap in a gasser ZF5 (with the above 1987 - 1996 F150 & Larger F-Series Trucks - ZF5 from Diesel to fit 460? - Will a ZF5 from a big block (I am gonna assume its a 7. Hey guys my tranny went out in my 95 7. 9 IDI to 7. The diesel and big block 460 have a different bolt pattern (and it has different internal gear ratios that you wouldn't want). 79 2nd Gear: 3. The s5-47 was mostly used in My friend has a '95 ford with a 460 and a zf5 transmission and was wondering if his zf5 will bolt up to a '95 7. For the mods, see below: 460 ZF5 with "typ4" modifications to make it work on the IDI. 9 Cummins, Getrag 360 manual, Tweeked pump, straight pipes I am looking at the non turbo ford diesel idi 6. 88-97 Ford 460 7. Find specs, performance, and maintenance tips. Found out the hard way. Sort by Oldest first Oldest first Newest first Most reactions. 3 but the 351 zf is too small . SW Hutchinson, MN 55350 Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7. I think my ZF5 behind the 460 is great. 0L Powerstroke Diesel; 6. 3 would my tranny drop into a 90 f250 460 I've been told Yea but I want to be sure. I have a Ford zf5 from a 460 5 speed manual with a 350 hp South Bend clutch with new flywheel and throw out bearing. I want to build a diesel truck and my original plan was to do a 12v cummins swap and I already have the cummins engine. 9L) - 7. 5-2002 Cummins 24 Valve Increase Quantity of Conversion Kit: 1987-1994, 6. 0 Amarillo edition (sold) A forum community dedicated to Ford F-series owners and enthusiasts with a Power Stroke diesel engine. 3" down pipe to 4" dump at the rear wheel. The ZF-5 was behind a EFI 460 in a '91 F350 4x4 and the ZF-6 was behind a 7. 3 psd. 72 Rev Gear: 5. much more lol :icon_ford: buy a flywheel and starter I stuffed the internals Of a Zf5-42 460 wide ratio trans Into my diesel case. i just did one on my bronco. The ZF5 speed transmission was released in Ford’s heavy duty diesel trucks in 1987. Anyone ever take a zf5 s42 diesel housing and put a zf5 s42 460 internals in it for the lower 1st /reverse and wide ratio? I have a 95 s42 now but i dont think i will like it for starting out while towing w 4:10s and 35s I just bought a spare s42 case and have access to a s42 460 trans . The gasser bellhousing is different from the gasser housing. smilinsam Also, will the diesel version of the ZF work with an adaptor, or what is involved. It requires a custom drilled Cummins 5 speed flywheel that can accept a 13" Ford clutch, and a pilot bearing for use in a Cummins conversion. 9L) - 2WD ZF5 TO 4WD ZF5 - So I bought a 4WD ZF5 for a 85 6. 3 ZF5 to 460 - A few years back, I helped on an E4OD to ZF5 conversion that went well in a SBF truck, so I'm The transmission can be from any 7. I have two trucks 1991 7,3 non turbo 4wd. My main thing is POWER i dont care bout mpg. Video goes over the hardware you get, the hardware you need, and the clutch, flywheel, and starter needed. the noise happens with the clutch compressed or not so i decided to get a remaned diesel S42 ZF. 25 swap, 35's, homebuilt hidden winch mount, smittybilt 12,000lbs winch. Can this even be done? Any ideas on adapter plate required. Im question is, would the zf5 hold up to a cummins with around 500hp and 1000ft/lb? This is not a going to be race truck or a sled puller, but i want reliability and power for towing and daily driving. 0L or 2008-2010 6. 3. MOST people want the ZF5 Manual Transmission-&nbsp;1987-94 Rated for 420 ft. 5 Engine to Transmission ZF5 S42 47 Divider Plate Dust Shield (For: Ford) Opens in a new window or tab. Or make an Wanted: a 4wd Diesel ZF5 (prefer diesel, but 460 or 351 will work too) for a machining project. 77 Rev Gear: 4. 3 IDI. I think diesel and 460 ZF5 's have a different bolt pattern. Noisy, ugly and most of the time it Adapter Plate for 1989-2002 Cummins to Ford 7. Supporting Member. 5-13 MPG or 10-11 MPG towing Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case - 7. should be able to go the other way also, same casting just different For the six, you should run the bigger Ford transmissions either the diesel ZF5 or the 460 version. the dowel holes are different but here is what I did. 5x16. 2L Power Stroke; 3. 3 diesel 4x4 auto C6 now ZF5 1990 F250 7. 1981 F350 97 12v, 47re with E-TransControl, Dodge Dana 60 with free Decrease Quantity of Conversion Kit: 1987-1994, 6. 3 for anything to remotely line up. They are physically the same except for the bell housing bolt pattern and the internal gear ratio. MOST people want the gassers gearing or the 96/97 I need that will work with a '76 460 that will be going into a '70 bump. 3 w/ 140,xxx on it the clutch went out so the wrench to get rid of it for $3500. The line is different between the small block gas ZF and the big block/diesel ZF. The top 2 holes are the same within a couple thousandths. 3L Power Stroke Diesel - ZF5 speed trans serial numbers - I am sure someone has asked and answered this question already but I can not find it. 1999 F350 7. lots of wrong info online. I coverted my '86 Supercab F-250 from 351w/C6 to 351w/ZF5 and then t 460/ZF5 using L&L oil filter relocation and mounts. I have a ZF5, I was told it came from behind a 460, but someone told me the one I had came from a 7. 3L Power Stroke Diesel; Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7. 02-01-2016 04:17 PM. The small blocks have an internal slave. The lower reverse and slightly taller OD compaired to the diesel ratios are nice. 9. 5" dowels on the bellhousing. 10 4th Gear: 1. Dec 11 I have a ZF trans from a 7. that means the V10 bolt pattern is the same as a 460, and therefore DIFFERENT from the diesel. 55 & 33" tires w/ zf5 and a turbo runs ~18. Clutch, Transmission, Differential, Axle & Transfer Case - Zf-5 gas vs diesel bolt patterns - plan is to put a ZF-5 in my 78 Bronco, 460 engine with NP203, currently 3. 79 Chevy C-20 crewcab with 4-53T Detroit with 5 speed new process and 3 speed auxilary running 11 years. 3L IDI Diesels . Post Reply. 79 Ford F250 Supercab w/ 6BT VE, ZF 5. Ranchero50 Moderator Posts: 5799 Joined: Wed Nov 08, 2006 7:02 pm Location: Maryland, Hagerstown Contact Ford Diesel Forums. The 460 zf5 didnt have that low 1st gear. The Ford housing will handle any small block Ford transmission. As far as I know, you'll need to find a big block gas 4x4 ZF5. 4L Power Stroke starter which is not included. 3 in a 92 that had a 460. It has a picture also. 3 and E4OD. Why Choose a ZF5? Exactly what do I need to convert the old C6 setup to a ZF5? does anyone know what truck years had the 460 2wd with the ZF5 so that I can find the proper gear to run the clutch? Well diesel engines run the ZF5 and the ZF5 models rated from 420 to 470 ft/lbs of torque and many diesel engines can produce way more than that and people still Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7. A forum community dedicated to all Ford Diesel owners and enthusiasts. You'd need an adapter plate from destroked. :beer: Edit: Oh yea, I plan on trying to use the hydro clutch system that came on the 96'. Save Share I am swapping out the E4OD for a zf5 from a 460 truck, I noticed the bellhousing on the zf5 has a different starter bolt pattern than the one on the aluminum spacer plate that it bolted in between the E4OD and the motor Sinister diesel coolant filter. The 1984 Mercedes 300D (D stands for diesel); 200K+ miles 4BT into a 00 Dakota 4wd <--- my build thread No, the zf5 for the 460 uses a big block bell pattern. You can get a nice adapter plate from destroked. Buy It Now. even more difficult to just find the trans. this combo will be going in my 71 4x4 f250 crew cab. 5 tires. 03-31-2014 11:46 AM. 3 Diesel, was E4OD auto now ZF5 manual (See conversion notes) See also My truck: 1990 Dodge D250 5. The dowel pins are also staggered, the driver's side being higher up on the bellhousing than the A 460 ZF5 can be modified to bolt to the back of an IDI (there's a thread in the tech articles about it), but the easiest solution for you would be to just source a 4wd ZF that already has the IDI bolt pattern. 9 IDI engine swap into a 460 truck - I have been reading on here for the last week since I bought a 87 F250 6. Joined Dec 11, 2004 Posts 7,510 Reaction score 34 at first i used a 460 ZF5, and it was so bad that i felt like the trans was going to come apart. Ford 7. Early '95 and previous Well diesel engines run the ZF5 and the ZF5 models rated from 420 to 470 ft/lbs of torque and many diesel engines can produce way more than that and people still run the ZF5 I have seen 460 iZF5 modified to fit a 7. M. 186 posts · Joined 2009 Add to quote; Only show this user Which Ford Trucks Came With a ZF5? The ZF5 was found in: Ford F-250 (1987-1997) Ford F-350 (1987-1998) Ford Bronco (1987-1996) Ford E-Series Vans (1988-1996) Each truck had different bellhousing patterns – small block, big block, or diesel – so if you’re planning a ZF5 swap, make sure the transmission matches your engine. It's a good thing that our engines all came from the factory with a pattern for doing this. 25" SMF converted IDI? The only difference between the two is that the pressure plate fingers on the 460 are a 1/16th of an inch "shorter" (When both are on smooth cement floor, measured from floor to fingers) than the ones on the conversion clutch I just took out. Tags 460 7. 60 3rd Gear: 1. 93 bronco, SAS'd 44, 10. 3inch downpipe, 4 in exhaust. Both vehicles are 4x4. Was: $349. Pre-Power Stroke Diesel (7. 3 diesel engine. Ford Diesel Forums. 10 gears Supercab. He has always been around ford . I used the 1st Gen Dodges radiator and IC in mine and fit without much modification. 72 1st gear. A forum community dedicated to Diesel engine owners and enthusiasts. The second truck is a 1992 460 4wd with a bad tranny. The bolt holes are off by about 3/8". Bugman. 6. I know the main shaft is 1/8” shorter but it still engages the clutch and pilot bearing. I'm sick of the zf5 and am saving my money for a used zf6 with the built in oil pump. It's called the adapter plate. I put a 460 in my 91 f350 with the idi zf5. 9 IDI which came with a 4 speed because I wanted to lower my highway rpms as I drive on the highway everyday to work and back 70km each way. Has anyone here done a 12V swap and used the 460 ZF5-42 Transmission? If so, tell me how it worked out. Have a few interchange questions: 1. Save Share Only works to put a gasser trans on a diesel, doesn't work to put the diesel trans on a gasser. I am looking at buying a 97 F350 with a 460 gas motor and will be converting it to a 5. got it in lastnight, and its horrible! im running 5 quarts of Valvoline syncromesh ive tried mercon V equivalent and penzoil syncromesh. 460 ZF5 with "typ4" modifications to make it work on the IDI. 9 IDI t19 4 speed . Jump to Latest I would sell the 460 trans and buy a diesel trans. Garett 38R ball bearing turbo 4" exhaust silverline stack DP6 chip stage 2 injectors higher pressure oil pump stage 5 TQ shift kit traction bars 6" lift moto metal 18" rims 35" BFG Mud Terrains ETC. 3 diesel ZF-5 speed. people have used both HillOttFam, if you want more info on ZF5/460/L&L in a truck start another thread or link me to one you've already asked. Assuming (I havent spoken with the guy yet) that this tranny is complete with useable clutch and flywheel, how hard is it to "make manual what was 460 ain't quite the same as a diesel bellhousing. I have 2 of them. My buddy has a 92 f250 with a 351 and a zf5 manual. 00 5th Gear: 0. 3DI. : I used a 1/2 inch 4 fluted end mill to machine the diesel bolts holes. I bolted a 460 to my diesel zf. That is what the article tells you how to convert it over. All I would need are the hydro's and 7. So today I ran across a 88 F350 4x4 with a gaser 460 5 speed before I realized it I had bought it for 500 ok i have a 96/97 f350 dually 7. Reactions: 97F250HDXLT and Bugman. 42, NP205. 5, i got a 93 bellhousing and tranny, rebuilt the trans and was good to go, i couldve goten away with a 95+ as well, or i couldve goten away with I have a chance to pick up a used ZF5 speed tranny out of a 97 F-250 4x4 7. 3 stroke. Has anyone on here done a swap like this. The 2 top holes needed to be opened up for the The transmission can be from any 7. It's noisy at idle, but they all are. Looking for Blue 40 On a diesel you do, they have different flywheels. 31 3rd Gear: 2. I believe it's a 12" clutch. Then the diesel adaptor plate is bolted on at these two holes (same between gas and diesel) as a template. 910 posts · Joined I have been looking for a zf5 in my area for a couple weeks now. 3IDI/ZF5-speed - Here's the story. What are the serial numbers for a diesel and what My current truck, 4wd with 3. That being said, Id suggest a t19 with a gv od or an idi diesel with the zf5-47. 7898 posts · Joined 2007 Add to quote; Only show this user Im swaping engines from my 1992 7. 9, 7. 1995-97 470 ft. have fun with this swap, it's a pain in the ass. 3L IDI & 6. I'm going to use the steering 1985 6. Soon to come:Garrett Dual Ball Bearing T3/60-1with 3" V-band Diesel- Fuel 4 Life. 3 Non-Power Stroke, ZF5, to 1989-1998 Cummins 12 Valve. I rebuilt a ZF this past winter for my IDI and used the guts from a 460 ZF as I wanted the wide ratio gears, some of the parts were a pain to pull <p>One Shifter mount ear needs repaired</p><br /><p>Up for auction is a 460 or 7. It's I believe the ZF5 is rated for almost 500 foot pounds of torque and was used in diesel pick up trucks. 3L IDI and 7. I would like to put it into my 1993 F-250 4x4 7. If you had another housing that was broken or cracked, you could cut the piece off and have it welded on. 72:1, will be way too low. 8. 53 4th Gear: 1. I would assume that the zf5 would not cross over, but I'm not sure. Put the bearings I had for my original I have a 460 ZF5 with a tailhousing sans mounts (last relic of my annual ZF5 replacements). voqndfp mgfjphp gdnnax sevj elz nbcrux jpq sdjqkwc vyukgg ippgq