Piston soak procedure I have used Kreen a few times already in the oil and fuel, no soak as yet though. 0. Jump to Latest 41 - 60 of 67 Posts. If the soak is performed at TDC, B-12 is also soaking the bottom of the valves and the injector tips May 15, 2012 · I have a 2017 Kia Sorento 2. Jun 9, 2024 · VW/Audi’s infamous oil consumption issue on 2. Now, a dead cylinder #4, and the likely death of the car. The fluid was sitting on top of the piston until he started the car to cause spark and fuel mixture to burn it off. That means I used 100ml of B-12 per piston on 600ml for the whole engine during the second stage of the flush - B-12 breaks A LOT of carbon from inside the motor. 4s actually have nozzles that squirt oil onto the piston skirt. Turn the engine off. I figured a piston soak was relatively low effort, low cost, and (hopefully) low risk. Notice the fine knurled finish. awesome video by Eurotrash. I did a 7 hour soak. That is, run the engine with the B12 in the crankcase after soaking (before changing oil) like an improvised flush, and others say to change the oil before the first start after the soak is done. Rotate the engine by hand until all of the cylinders are roughly in the middle of the piston stroke. Apr 3, 2024 · This second piston soak I let the berryman's soak for 4 hours turned the crank and cylinder 1 still had fluid. Aug 9, 2022 · I wanted to share a piston soak procedure from Hyundai service bulletin 21-EM-003H that I found interesting. After that, crank the engine for 3 to 5 seconds without putting in the spark plugs. People seem to generally have success with this method, even seeing some cars get back up to 2-3000miles between oil top ups! May 1, 2018 · A great way to take full advantage of the 21st Century engineering that goes into piston rings is optimize the break-in / ring seating procedure. Interestingly all of them were discouraging to change the pistons given the cost vs. Changed the oil. Discussion Aug 13, 2024 · Has anyone performed the overnight piston soak to clean the stuck oil rings, as described in the attached TSB 222, which is for when the car fails the excess oil consumption test? If so, would this be considered a DIY or is it just something the dealership should perform? This seems like a DIY procedure, as long as you have the parts and equipment. To get a better soak after filling the cylinders try this: Crank the engine over if you can with a breaker bar. That doesn't completely work, then the "piston soak" method is next and see if that resolves the issue. Yes, that plan of attack is great. Is it correct? See the questions I have too, in bold: Start the engine, let it reach operating temperature. Typical Saturn stuff. B-12 is mostly straight solvent so it should work if your consumption is caused by Piston rings. I found some Pistons still had fluids and some piston were dry. Whatever you use, don't forget to change your oil shortly afterwards once you've been out for a run. Just did a piston soak on the '03 Accord 2. There will be probably be one piston that remains full but the others there will be evaporation. So I overfill it then left it overnight. Apr 29, 2022 · (2) The Expected Results are that an Extended Soak Procedure will place enough of this Solvent in concentrations that will be sufficient to Soften, Loosen and Dissolve “The Carbon Black Mung” surrounding the Valve Seats, covering the Piston Tops and adjacent combustion chambers surfaces AND seep down around the Two Top ‘Low Tension Sep 16, 2024 · After a two-day piston soaking, I can confirm the pre-ignition noise is gone, and the engine is way more responsive. As an added bonus, it will actually morph into a piston soak of sorts, but that's not the primary goal of this procedure. 0T (CDNC Gen 2) - 2012 Q5 2. It has also been mentioned on this thread, so I am investigating doing that also. Method 3: Your ideas on other piston soak products? Aug 31, 2023 · I work for hyundai and this is the recommended treatment procedure and it works 90% of the time so i figured I’d give it a shot on the ar and it worked great. Aug 1, 2024 · Has anyone performed the overnight piston soak to clean the stuck oil rings, as described in the attached TSB 222, which is for when the car fails the excess oil consumption test? If so, would this be considered a DIY or is it just something the dealership should perform? This seems like a DIY procedure, as long as you have the parts and equipment. Discussion Aug 6, 2024 · B12 Piston Soak procedure I used. One is B-12 or AUTO-RX. Everything was going great and after I changed the oil I must have not tightened the oil filter enough or something weird happend with the filter. 4L engine and 173k miles. 2. Joined: Feb 2, 2018 41 33 0 With the gen 2 piston ring issues, a piston soak seems to be a common topic in this sub but I don't see a post with a proper guide. So sometime in the next week I will try this in my oil burning 2000 Honda CR-V, 5-speed AWD. of Delco X66-P to each cylinder. Topped off crankcase with fresh oil. Decided to do a piston soak with Berryman. Nov 12, 2018 · I read up here on the numerous threads about changing the PCV valve, checking for leaks, etc. It was still clear so I didn't change it. I have owned the vehicle for nearly 4 years, and while I don't drive that much, my oil consumption was getting progressively worse to the point where I was adding 1 liter of oil every 500km or so - insane May 8, 2019 · Has anyone tried a piston soak with any of the available cleaning products? Seafoam piston soaks have shown great improvements with older engines dealing with oil consumption issues. This method worked for a 2012 Audi Jun 2, 2024 · B12 Piston Soak procedure I used Remove spark plugs Get a small wooden dowel rod to use as a piston positioning gauge to help when rotating cylinders. Added ~4. This was a big job and I consider myself handy, but not a mechanic. Still having issues, then you're in for the bigger job May 10, 2023 · If the rings are stuck kia has a piston soak procedure. This result is WAY better than I was even hoping to see. B12 Piston Soak procedure I used Remove spark plugs Get a small wooden dowel rod to use as a piston positioning gauge to help when rotating cylinders. I removed the spark Feb 27, 2011 · It has excessive blow-by, the rings could be totally shot BUT they could also be partially or completely gummed and stuck in place, unable to freely move. We even do piston soaks on aircraft engines. Report back after doing another 400 miles at 75mph. Dec 16, 2023 · Repeated this process over the next 48 hours using 3 bottles of B12 Chemtool. Take off the ignition coils or lead plug wires and remove the plugs on the engine. The idle has stayed dead smooth, and power is worlds ahead of where it was prior to the soak. My brother thought it Jun 11, 2024 · After all that, I would and did drain and fill with sacrificial oil for an idle flush, then change filter and put in the good stuff. Sep 8, 2016 · The most interesting part of this procedure to me, is the use of hydro locking to force the solvent through, and it seems to be a tried and true thing. Remove the negative battery terminal. 15w-40, 10w-40, 10w-30, synthetic, blend, dino. 1 3 of 4 Go to page. 2015 Santa Fe Sport 2. Jun 2, 2024 · B12 Piston Soak procedure I used Remove spark plugs Get a small wooden dowel rod to use as a piston positioning gauge to help when rotating cylinders. A piston soak seeks to clean the piston rings/oil control rings. Search this forum for piston soak to find a discussion, I think you can find the PDF attachment for the TSB I posted in that other discussion about piston soak. I have not had to replace the catalytic converter yet. Dec 8, 2008 · After doing a real piston soak with GM top engine cleaner the knock goes away completely. Then pour more of your favorite cleaner in, let is soak of 8 or so hours and repeat. Follow the Hyundai/Kia procedure, which uses compressed air to force the cleaner down through the piston rings. 1 4 of 4 Go to page. - My old engine. Few encouraging videos on youtube that show reduction in oil Dec 9, 2019 · Berryman B-12 Fuel Injector Cleaner (part #0116) is very effective in removing hard carbon by way of a piston soak. 4 liter engine, but the oil consumption affects many toyota and scion 4 cylinder engines with high milage between th Jun 16, 2024 · Pro tip if you have consumption, the evening before your next oil change research a piston soak procedure with Berrymans B12. 0T (CDNC Gen 2 EA888). Dec 18, 2006 · Just did a piston soak with some Berryman's Chemtool a far superior product to Seafoam. Another is marvel mystery oil. 1 2 of 4 Go to page. Don’t wait to address the issue as among things like clogging O2’s and cats from extended oil burning, worst case carbon deposits can break loose to hang and burn a valve. ive read about people using marvel mystery oil, Berryman B 12, and regane as potentials anyone have recomendations? And how much do i use? what is the procedure? LEt it sit 3 or 4 hours? Jul 1, 2017 · Hi everyone, I have a 285k miles 01 Corolla with a 7AFE engine that is consuming oil. [Note that it’s easier to use Sea Foam Spray. It does remove carbon and reduce ring sticking. If you use ramps on the front, consider adding jack stands on the rear. The piston soak got the consumption down to ½ quart per 1,000 miles. In the case of piston soaks the longer the product sits the better, and its always better to fire the engine up with a little oil in the cylinder. Thanks for including all the vehicle info. The dealer did a piston soak 2 months ago which was unsuccessful. Or just tweak it with the starter every 8 hours or so. and there are a couple of products out there that you can use. In the morning all the fluid was gone. Pour it in, rotate crank 5 full rotations, wait 6 hours, repeat 5-6 times. Consider sourcing an effective product and performing another piston soak prior to the next oil change. Pour a small amount of injector cleaner into the spark plug holes. Nov 20, 2020 · A piston soak can be performed by a lay mechanic willing to acquire the right tools and chemicals. Aug 22, 2016 · Didn't work great as a piston soak as its an aerosol and the vapour didn't sit like a pure liquid. Rotate clockwise. Feb 2, 2018 · Piston soak procedure. Jul 20, 2019 · The 7th Generation When do you do a cylinder piston soak procedure? Feb 1, 2014 · I have now been driving the car for 3 weeks. 4. Nov 3, 2021 · This car is a 2006 toyota camry with a 2. 4 2AZ-FE) and have a lot of LM products at my disposal (long story). P. Background: 2018 Q7 purchased from a Apr 3, 2023 · Previously, I had called 3 Audi dealerships in the area and they all gave me quotes from 7-10k for piston change job. I was burning a litre of oil every 1500kms. That's why after just 500-1000 miles of driving I knew I'd fixed the problem. I'll update if something colossal happens. Jul 19, 2007 · My compression varied by 15psi between the highest and lowest cylinder on my Saturn before the piston soak and when I checked it a few days after the procedure the compression was dead even across all cylinders not to mention it reduced my oil consumption. Follow normal piston soak procedures. Background: 2018 Q7 purchased from a Nov 4, 2024 · Has anyone tried and had success using Berryman's B-12 piston soak procedure to free stuck piston rings? And what might that be? Basically its pouring 1-2 ounces of a solvent (B-12) into the combustion chamber and letting it seep down the cylinder walls to the rings. Remove your spark plugs. Jul 21, 2020 · A few weeks ago, at about 146k miles, I finally had time to do the piston soak procedure during a time when he could get along without the car. This goes way beyond just choosing the right break-in oil, although that’s an excellent start. I assume this is not normal and would like opinions on whether or not to proceed with the piston soak. I am hoping if the Valvoline Restore and Protect does its job over time - hoping it will at least keep the problem from returning and might even see some improvement on consumption after 4 OCI's. BigKetchup · Registered. I might try a modified method next time I need to do a piston soak, and put the plug back in and turn the crank. What a world of difference from before the piston soak. Joined Oct 8, 2012 · 2,875 Posts #41 I recently did the piston soak on my 09 prius. Jump to Latest 21 - 40 of 67 Posts. Here are a few things that I learned that might help you out. A common cause of the oil consumption is stuck piston rings. zulf200. 9 quarts of fresh oil. 0T FSI Discussion - Just tried the piston soak - 2012 Q5 2. I am 435 miles post piston soak and very minimal oil usage (4-6 ounce?) vs ~1000 miles per quart previous to piston soak procedure Mar 16, 2023 · I watched a YouTube video where a guy fixed his oil consumption with a 24 hour piston soak Has anyone else tried this he did it on 2 separate vehicles and it worked for both B12 Berryman Piston soak /Oil consumption - Page 2 Feb 24, 2021 · If Purple Power did no damage to the piston coating, unlike the oven cleaner, then it should be doable to use Purple Power as a piston soak. Deliberately run the car until oil level is at minimum. In the hope that Jan 30, 2022 · Been owning vehicles since 1969 and have never needed a piston soak or piston flush. bobistheoilguy. Apr 26, 2023 · The cylinder soak is something the technician spoke about when he came out , but was not put on paper. It's such a simple procedure on the Prius it's almost like why not at least try it? Apr 2, 2016 · Last time I tried the BG 109 I did the piston soak right before the cleaner went in , and ran the engine from cold to warm for about 30 min at 2000 rpm,,until all the smoke from the piston soak had left the engine,,and it will smoke a lot after doing this procedure Apr 9, 2024 · Your piston soak likely did nothing much. Extracted the oil from top using Fluid extractor. It has been trickling down to about 1 quart every 900ish miles. Change oil+filter. I bought 3 x 444ml cans of Berrymans B12 Chemtool off Ebay (only 2 cans required). Maybe 20 times with the piston soaking with Berryman B-12 after 4 hours and then again with second fill of 4oz B-12 if needed. You will not need to follow the procedure with a lubricant. piston ring soak on 09 Scion tCIt has worked very well so far. Jun 1, 2009 · My '07 Prius has been consuming roughly 1 quart per ~1000 miles for the last 100k miles or so. Start the engine and allow it to stall. Soaking pistons overnight Apr 14, 2024 · I would be very wary of carrying out such a procedure unless following the recommendations of Volvo and using specified materials. I scoped my pistons and 2 and 3 looked brand new, plugs were nice too. I see B-12 Chemtool is a popular choice for this procedure. Cheap way to work through all this. You need it about 16" long. Just an overnight piston soak with b12, did two rounds because i wasn’t satisfied after the first one. That procedure is not to be taken lightly; if it's done wrong it can have catastrophic results. After pulling the sparkplugs I used an endoscope to inspect the pistons. Nov 20, 2024 · If the piston rings soak-in-solvent procedure doesn't bring the oil consumption back below the industry standard of what is considered 'acceptable' (one quart oil per 1000 miles), then the dealer has to move on to repair/replace the engine per the TSB, but attempting to clear the debris/deposits from the piston rings to restore their proper Jul 11, 2014 · Pertaining to piston soaks I've concluded that this product is the most effective to dissolve hard carbon deposits on piston tops, but I remember reading somewhere on berryman's own site that it should not be used for more than a few hours due to coated aluminum being damaged by the soak, also reading literally hundreds of posts where people Oil weight never made a difference in mine before the piston soak. Here is a video that might help: How to Clean Piston Rings Or Oil control rings after head Gasket failure / CCV Failure On Any Car. Use good synthetic 30/40w oil - don't let the dipstick level fall below a half-quart low and and change the oil every 3k. What would be the best chemical to use for this job? Something that will soften the carbon on the piston rings. If it's using that much oil you probably have a stopped up catalytic converter. then crank a 20s or so to blast the crap out, reinstall plugs, change oil, enjoy. How to do it: Remove the spark plugs and pour Sea Foam into each cylinder cavity through the plug hole. Won’t waste my time on a Seafoam piston soak on either vehicle. Been like 15k miles since doing it and the issue hasn’t returned Dec 12, 2024 · I've heard of people doing both ways. I had it in the shop and was told there is a loss of compression on two cylinders (after he de -carboned it). He also did varies experiments to unclog piston rings with no success so a viewer suggested him to try B12. not enough compression due to carbon buildup on the valves. piston. of oil every 1,000 miles before doing a Berryman B-12 Piston Soak Procedure running MMO in the tank improved power and mpg. There is a web sitewww. 4L (154k mi) using the BMW Fuel Injection Cleaner Concentrate p/n 82140428376 (same as referenced in @The Critic's OP but ordered from BMW of South Atlanta for $32 delivered). I started the car for around 30 seconds and then heard a really weird sound and noticed oil spraying out of the oil filter. Nov 10, 2023 · Not sure exactly what to do, I looked for any treatments that could be done outside of a full rebuild, and landed on the Berryman B12 piston soak. I am going to do an engine flush procedure and piston soak most likely. 0T engine. Jul 13, 2020 · I'm about to do a piston soak/plug change on my 09 Pontiac Vibe with the Toyota 2az fe 2. Most people don't and getting answers out of them is like pulling teeth. Sea foam does melt down carbon gunk pretty good. It is best to place the engine under a mild load as soon as possible after the initial startup procedure is complete. Feb 20, 2023 · If that doesn't help & with your post of it leaking oil past the valve cover seal from what sounds like a engine over-pressure from mucked up / stuck piston rings causing excessive blow by, review this Kia excessive oil consumption test & piston soak procedure to see if that'll free up the rings & if not & it consumes over 1qt / 1K miles, then It will take a while before it gets into the crankcase but it will get there sooner or later. Dec 29, 2024. I understand Chrysler has one also that maybe as good or better than the GM but i haven't tried it. Dec 31, 2024 · 2. It cut my consumption in half, then 5w30 ever since. I've seen this in person by soaking the EGR valve in it. We don't have a video, but we recommend the following procedure - Take out the spark plugs and pour 1/4 can of Berryman B-12 Chemtool Fuel Injector Cleaner (Part #0116) into each cylinder. Plan on doing this for the foreseeable future. Oct 2, 2024 · Here's the procedure I'm going to follow. I had a significant amount of white smoke with the first half a$$ piston soak. Before each oil change, I tried: Seafoam Marvel Mystery Oil Chemtool B-12 I would remove the 4 spark plugs and pour several ounces of each fluid down into the combustion chamber. Hey friends, i am considering doing a piston soak on my 2017 3. Oct 7, 2012 · Piston Soak Procedure. Ive done 1000kms so far and although the oil level on my car scanner app gives me a different reading everytime, it's not trending downwards, and it seems that it hasn't burnt much, if any. I thought I was going to get a new engine. Once you’ve removed the spark plugs, be sure to add enough cleaner to cover the entire piston crown with cleaner. Lastly, never buy a Hyunkia turbo engine vehicle of Theta II design. Discussion in 'Gen 3 Prius Care, Maintenance & Troubleshooting' started by Mola, Apr 3, 2018. Remove spark plugs; Get a small wooden dowel rod to use as a piston positioning gauge to help when rotating cylinders. Apr 11, 2016 · The oil draining journals are among the 3 rings on each of the piston, I doubt they drained into the oil pan. I did the MMO soak first as you were doing and it didn't do anything. Soak I'm not going to get into the way the soak is done since it's outlined in the video linked above, but I changed a couple of things. Aug 26, 2022 · Yes and no. May 7, 2018 · I want to do a piston soak on my Scion (2. It has gotten to 1 quart every 400ish miles. Nov 12, 2017 · This is related to what's known as a piston soak, but this is aimed at cleaning valves of any carbon deposits that might have built up over time/miles. Nov 23, 2024 · A piston soak helps remove the gunk and slows down the rate at which your Audi consumes oil. I will try to create one for reference. I will probably do the piston soak in a couple of weeks. com. May 4, 2003 · There was a TSB that after using a solvent for a soak to follow with a synthetic oil that finished the cleaning that the soak started. put the plugs back in and let it soak for about 4 hours. ] Let the engine sit and soak up to 3 days (if you have the time). What would you use? Engine The famous VW/AUDI 2. 22 Highlander XSE, 85 Corolla 1JZ-GTE- Traffic humiliator, 6th gen Accord J37 swap project/track purpose, 08 Rav4- Oil eater beater, I would like to thank the previous By 95,000 miles the oil consumption was over 1 quart per 1,000 miles, so I did a 2 day "piston soak" with Berryman's B12. #5 Mendel Leisk, Jul 29 a piston soak is where we pour MMO via the coils/spark plugs and let it sit there Oct 10, 2010 · Method 1: Buy the super agressive BMW fuel injector cleaner (the old GM/AC Delco stuff, but under BMW name these days) and use that for the piston soak. Remove the junction cover and the breaker for the fuel pump fuse. that makes me feel that it is a very worthwhile procedure. I drove 100 miles then did a third berryman's piston Did the old Berryman’s B12 soak last summer. Time to weigh repair costs versus getting rid of it. There are several ways we can clean pistons without compromising the piston’s finish. These may help for a while but these engines can still burn oil and have bearing issues. Have had it for about a year, but it was consuming oil at a ferocious rate: first 1 quart/400 miles, finally all four quarts/200 miles. I think this is something I want to try but r Mar 17, 2008 · Another B12 Chemtool Piston Soak Oil burner success with Toyota 2AZ-FE FALARAK; Aug 6, 2024; Mechanical/Maintenance Forum; 2. Feb 12, 2014 · Originally Posted By: Shannow Originally Posted By: Trav Go down to the Subaru dealer and get/order the upper engine cleaner. I will inspect for carbon buildup and adjust the procedure accordingly. Have more Kreen on hand, itching to use it! Aug 8, 2005 · I wanna do my first piston soak, clean out the pistons, chamber ect. Doing rings on this car is a waste of money at this point. Joined May 16, 2020 · 82 Posts. Can any of you guys snap a picture of where to hand crank the engine? It may sound elementary but there’s a first time for everything, and there’s just not a lot of information online for this process with the 3. Instant improvement doesn't matter only average mpg. I wore a carbon canister gas mask when working with the X66-P and that provided good protection from the vapors. I will keep everyone posted on how the oil consumption plays out. Let the engine sit for 8 to 10 hours to soak the piston and rings. I've already replaced the PCV several times and run Castrol Edge high mileage on 5k OCIs. Had a car that wouldnt start. The Berryman B-12 soak cured my oil consumption. Pull plugs, dump in, sit for 6 hours, bumper starter a couple times (with a towel over the engine for the spray lol), pour more in, repeat a couple times. Oct 29, 2024 · Scoped the pistons again (see video of piston head and side wall in the same frame). 0L engines is fixed by a 24-hour piston soak using Berryman's B12 Chemtool. Oct 17, 2022 · The second piston soak, I soaked it for 36 hours with Seaform only (128 oz can - no engine rotation) and it still made no different. Method 2: Buy 5-10 cans of Berryman B12, or the big can of ChemDip, and use that for piston soak over a few days. As a general background on this procedure: Many high mileage second-generation Prius begin burning oil. That being said when my Prius was burning a qt. Stopped by the dealer today and asked the status. On a V6, how do you get B12 around entire circumference? I do not have a leak down tester. Rotate engine every 30 minutes to work chemtool into rings during the soak. 4L GDI with 69K miles. 1. It’s important to note that this procedure doesn’t fix the root cause of your Audi’s problem. First thing you'll need is some good deposit cleaner. Did a MMO soak of 2 ounces per cylinder for 5-6 hours then turned the engine over to purge the MMO. jdmartin · Registered. I drained the oil and added 4 oz. I'm still waiting the opportunity to do my own MMO piston soak, but as others have stated, I think the compression and heat involved in the start up after the soak likely play a role too. It's an 11 year old rust belt car with 200K kms. The vehicle was burning 1L of oil every 2-400km under regular driving May 22, 2024 · Berryman B12 Piston Soak is the solution to sludged piston rings that can cause burning oil in any brand higher mileage engines. I have EPR on order so will do that first. Never had the resources to to do an engine rebuild, unfortunately. Then by June, I should be able to hold the dealer accountable , and we will see if the dealer comes up with some new demands. While doing this make sure your car is level. Didn't matter, drank 'em all at the same speed. Always Google Search a product on the internet before purchase. Jan 29, 2019 · Most recent video #14, he did a Barryman B-12 Chemtool piston soak. At the 250k miles the engine has overhauled with new piston & rings, bearings, gasket and seals but the block wasn´t bored in a machine shop because it looked in good shape, it didn´t had any ridge in the top Sep 28, 2024 · Past two years I have consumed about 1 quart every 2000 miles. I wish you the best of luck. 1 and 4 were soaked and caked in layers of carbon. If the Q7 isn’t too bad, I might try running Valvoline for one or two oil changes and see what it does. Then I read about the "Piston Soak" procedure. And this completes the piston soak process. Go. If clogged oil rings are the problem, I should see some improvement. After adding 2 ounces of cleaning solution into the cylinder, they have you pressurize it to 30 psi for 3 minutes using a leakdown test tool to force the cleaning solution into all of the piston ring lands. Little to NO oil loss. Feb 13, 2024 · Seems to be a lot of positive experience with piston soak. Using it sprayed into a vac line works great, certainly notice a difference. bought a can and split it evenly into the 6 cylinders. Sep 8, 2024 · There is a piston soak procedure, which might free up the stuck oil rings. The piston cleaning/oil ring soak involves removing the spark plugs and covering the pistons with a VERY STRONG Solvent, letting it soak for several hrs , where it will hopefully dissolve the carbon causing the low tension oil control rings to stick , which causes huge oil consumption issues! Aug 31, 2024 · There are people who have had success with the procedure and extended the life of a car that was basically ready for the scrap yard. I was burning a quart per 3000 and just had to mess with it. B12 Piston Soak procedure Nov 16, 2021 · Many modern engines including the Kia 2. Sep 2, 2024 · Q7 MKII Discussion - Piston Soak Tips - Thanks to many of you out there, I successfully performed a piston soak this weekend on my Q7 with 71,000 miles. Since the rings and pistons would traditionally last up to 300k miles or more and the actual issue is carbon on the oil control ring, I am demonstrating the Apr 9, 2024 · The best is a piston soak procedure using Berryman's B-12. Remove this knurled finish and the piston is junk. But I noticed this last time since I changed the oil it has been getting worse pretty quickly. That is accomplished by pulling the spark plugs, putting 0116 in each cylinder, letting the product dissolve the carbon, and then removing the mixture from each cylinder. Jan 29, 2024 · Overkill Piston Soak Procedure: Drain your oil and reinstall the drain plug. Eventually gunk will build up again and your Audi will resume burning oil like a champ. Nov 16, 2024 · Q7 MKII Discussion - Piston Soak Tips - Thanks to many of you out there, I successfully performed a piston soak this weekend on my Q7 with 71,000 miles. Aug 4, 2024 · B12 Piston Soak procedure I used. Based on results I will do piston soak. Kia has a TSB that applies to certain model years. Mola Junior Member. It seems to be effective an overnight soak with a powerful chemical cocktail is needed,the GM stuff has acidic compounds in it. KIA wanted them to do a second piston soak. You can find the Valvoline product on Ebay, it is not typically sold in autoparts stores. Starting to gather all items that I would need. Repeat this step. Mar 14, 2021 · But as per the above, new plugs, install a Muzzle (VCM Tuner II or S-VCM), and run some cleaners through the system and see what you get. You can get 1/4" dowel rod for $1 at Lowes/Home Depot; Use a socket with extensions and connect to the crankshaft bolt. . S. This Audi Q5 has been gu Mar 18, 2024 · Q7 MKII Discussion - Has anyone done the Berryman's piston soak? - My oil consumption has gone to 1 quart per 500 miles on my 75k 2018 Q7. I went on the same test drive and idle then checked the oil. value of the car. Hesitation reduced by 95%, as I noticed a couple since the soaking (time will tell). They didn't let me know about their KIA message from about end of April. I figured that "soak" means leave for a good amount of time. Initial startup procedure can be repeated as needed but caution should be taken as excessively running a new engine unloaded can lead to insufficient ring seating and poor performance. He said the rings were stuck, and blamed it on whoever did the piston/ring job over 120k+ miles before. Nov 2, 2023 · If that does not work, try an overnight piston soak with Berrymans or Valvoline Professional Intake Cleaner 884526. You can get this for $1 at Lowes/Home Depot Use a socket with extensions and connect to the crankshaft bolt. Most products don't dissolve carbon, and clearly yours did not dissolve any. Oil consumption at least cut in half. The result? Oct 4, 2022 · I am starting a piston soak with Berryman’s B12 on a 2015 Audi Q5 that is burning a ton of oil. This was my procedure. If you are suffering excessive oil consumption, you would be better off having the likely cause diagnosed first, as an upper cylinder soak won't do anything if the cause lies elsewhere. Berryman B-12 CHEMTOOL FUEL INJECTOR CLEANER (part #0116 and part #0121) can be used as a piston soak to help free stuck compression rings. Replies 35 Views 6K. I have a '12 Q5 2. Any one else heard of this. I watched a video where someone did the same thing with success, but he did something I'd never thought of. I'm still running seafoam in the oil and chemtool in the gas. 0T with 198k. Need to do an oil change after Piston Soak. The oil consumption is caused by rings that get carboned up and start to stick to the piston, this is common in many modern engines and I used to use the same method of overnight soaking with BMWs as it was super common on those. Recently, I watched the DIY Dave channel on YT about his Corolla burning oil a quart every 300 miles. We recommend doing the piston soak first, so that if you have any leakdown into the crankcase, you can run the vehicle for a bit to drive off the solvents. Given the issue with the small oil control rings (2010-2011), I would think a good piston soak should help free up some of the gumming that may have occurred. As we’ll see, the process is somewhat specific and less than rewarding if you screw it up! Nov 8, 2020 · - I used 50ml of B-12 per piston ever 12hrs. Nov 11, 2024 · Thanks for your interest in Berryman. 0L' s with INSANE oil consumption is resolved by doing a piston soak using Berryman's ChemTool B12 for 24 hours. Then 20 minute drive at high RPM. How to properly lubricate the cylinder walls after soaking? Sep 19, 2024 · Q5/SQ5 MKI (8R) Discussion - Stuck Rings - Hi all. It has been 1000 miles over a month of time. May 16, 2020 · Piston Soak Procedure. He scoped the bores to show all the cylinders were empty. Aug 26, 2024 · The B12 Chemtool piston soak made a HUGE difference in this engine. I am about to trade the car, but was planning to make a last ditch effort and do the Berryman's piston soak. Mar 14, 2018 · 2001 Corolla. Mar 16, 2023 · Compared to the cost of a ring job, I'd prefer to keep doing this soak as much as required. Since it is basically a fuel injection cleaner I presume LiquiMoly's Fuel System Cleaner, Gasoline System Cleaner, Valve Cleaner, or Jectron products would be good substitutes? May 31, 2003 · I have heard that on older motors the rings can get gummed up and stick compressed and not wipe the cylinder wall clean of oil and this can lead to oil burning. I've seen several threads on different forums laying out the process, and a common thing they all shared was the running the engine when the soak procedure Jun 7, 2019 · A few adjustment to the soak procedure I've done with my 2azfe (135k miles now) and saw drastic improvements to the point no oil needs to be added to keep the level above min within 4000 mile OCI's. I did the piston soak to see if it would yield results as far as my consumption goes, it was $30 worth of Oct 4, 2019 · My little 02 sc2 uses about a quart of oil in a 1,000 miles. I suspect my S4 needs Berrymans though! Big thanks for sharing that video!! Aug 27, 2023 · I've just recently taken out the injectors on my D4 and did a piston soak with berryman B12. Nov 30, 2005 · Although I like something like MMO for piston soaks, and let them soak at least 24 hours or more, 48 hours is even better! Turn the engine over by hand a few times [every few hours] and re-soak. This finish allows a thin film of oil to sit on this surface where it reduces friction with cylinder walls. 0t AWD Jul 29, 2018 · Sounds like a relatively simple procedure to do, btw. There appears to be metal bits and/or carbon bits at the top of the pistons. After the last soak, (added ATF and cleared cylinders) I drove it about 5 miles, maybe 10 min. Jump to Latest 61 - 67 of 67 Posts. Be sure to crank the engine once a day to loosen the rings. In this video I perform a two stage piston soak on a 2017 Q7 with the Audi 3. The best product to use as a piston soak is Berryman B-12 Chemtool Fuel Injector Cleaner (part #s 0116 and 0121 Jan 21, 2025 · I checked the compressions and they were all over the place so decided it had to be rings. I noticed the fluid either evaporated or dripped into the oil pan. Dec 27, 2023 · I'm hoping you can provide a link to a video which shows the procedure to use B12 to soak pistons and free up stuck rings. I trust the remaining carbon will disappear when I do another piston soaking (before the following oil change) and intake valve cleaning. pujbtxf mwx fkx xskoq tnnsye jvqzf yfgx aodli kpawy jhcln qdego mzvs gyhyh bway cshada