Naim xps vs supercap. Sorensen April 2, 2020, 4:34pm 19.

Naim xps vs supercap Cd5 Connection to Flatcap 2 Power Supply. Second HiCap for the 282, is it worth it, not going 252 but does the 282 merit a supercap v 2 x HiCap? Well this idea of a minimalist system has well and truly gone out of the window. to really improve in a big way on both, I would look for a 252 Supercap DR. Katmaimatt July 27, 2023, 1:07pm 1. I’ve bought and sold lots and lots of Naim gear including a 282/300 which briefly had a SC and my two favourite pre amps where 82/SC and oddly enough a 102/HC. I have My lastest upgrade was replacing the HiCap DR with a SuperCap DR a few months ago. If you take a look at Naim website you will find, in the upgrade path box,only the HCDR. View online or download Naim SUPERCAP Owner's Manual, Manual. Before adding the 2nd Hi-cap I was running the 82 on 1 Hi-cap. I eventually decided that I marginally preferred a Dual Teddy Cap on my 282s (but I did go back an forth a few times) but the XPS DR was sonically 'king' with my Yes, that’s right, as far as Naim are concerned it’s an XPS, in much the same way as the NAP250 has always been the NAP250, or the HICAP has always been the HICAP. Cremona M. Unfortunately I can’t afford the DR version right now although I know it would be the best thing to do. Didn’t know what I JimDog, here’s the NAC252, the NDX 2, a Niimbus HPA US 4+ and the NAP250 DR on the Naim Fraim. Please follow your Naim Audio product owner’s manual for the corresponding connection diagram. Svetty June 2, 2020, 10:36pm 41. Going out on a limb, assuming you are in the States. I was considering buying a Supercap. M. Essentially, an XPS powers a CD player, a Supercap powers a preamp. The disclaimer for me is that the speakers in the shop were stand mount vs my floor standing speakers. to power Naim Audio pre amplifiers, CD players, headphone amplifiers, active crossovers, phono stages, etc. The burndy is loosely draped and the right way round. 5 + Hicap is a closer thing and possibly down to personal taste. I’m now after a HiCap to use with a NAP200DR/NAC202 and a NAPSC2 onto the 202. I think the 202 is a sideways move and won’t bring big improvements and possibly none. i shall try and find it for you. The circuitry is based around the new groundbreaking discrete voltage regulator "Tedinator". I listened briefly to a NPX 300 > NSC222 > 250 (new model) yesterday and I liked the sound of my home system better. [Note: The system sounds better without the top shelf of the Naim Fraim covering the NAC252; it opens up the soundstage a little bit more. I’d suggest that NDX2/555 and SN3 Naim tend to use 10,000uF caps made by BHC - a very good make for sure, maybe just as good as the Nichicions that Sean uses, but the Mundorfs are still the best. It may not be the best/obvious/optimal end result, but really that’s not the point or purpose here. You will definitely here an improvement. This is a simple one. In the meantime, would it make sense to take a Supercap of the CB series and use the HC DR to power the Stageline N (which is now powered directly by 282)? Is the The regulators in the supercap drop this down to 24v, a drop of 16v, some of the regulators in the xps drop the voltage to 10v and 15v, a drop of 25v and 30v. two HC DRs vs. I had both of them serviced (by Darran at Class A in Sheffield) - and they have improved as the caps have settled in over time. That being said if you love the sound, then that’s all what counts. I'd echo this. I thought I was done upgrading but found a slightly used Nac 282 with a Nap 250 DR and a HiCap DR for a bargain at my local audio store. Sorensen April 2, 2020, 4:34pm 19. When I get the Supercap DR does it matter which cable I use for which connection when using two SNAICs to the 282. The improvement was astonishing to be honest, as much as adding the XPS DR to the NDX2. Many boxes have come and gone, but I have always used Naim’s NAC A5 speaker cable. Naim Audio - Community NAC 202 + NAPSC + HI-CAP vs NAC272. I tried an ST-60 and it had hum from the left channel. Loudspeakers are Focal Kanta 2. I’m not seeing much in the way of negative responses of utilising a 555PS instead of an XPS DR, additional cost to one side, I can’t see it being a bad choice vs an XPS DR and ultimately it will give my NDX2 the very best opportunity to maximise it’s value in my system and maybe one day giving me an opportunity to slot in an ND555. Pete. Obviously, I know that the 250 is a stereo amp and the 135 is mono, but are they essentially similar I’ve herd of some after market so called upgrades for the 52ps which is said to be better than the supercap. I’ve Naim Audio - Community Hi-Line vs Super Lumina interconnect. I have been in the Naim Audio family for about ten years. Naim Audio - Community NAP 250 DR vs NAP 300. I currently have a Hicap DR and use a Chord Chorus Reference SNAIC with it. I bought a hicap second hand when I still had a 202, and it works very well with the 282. Currently running: 282 Hicap DR 250DR Lp12 with prefix K powered by aux in 282 (prefix recapped with zfoil Hi Naim fans, I have a NDX2, SN2 +HiCap through B&W 702 speakers. When I was auditioning equipment prior to purchase I couldn’t hear the difference between the 82 and 52. Has anybody had I was using a NDX/XPS dr-252-Supercap dr-250dr with Spendor D7 speakers and S/L cables changing to a 300dr was a massive uplift all round so much more grip and control. I currently have a NAC82 and single HiCap, into a NAP180 and Dynaudio Contours. Music is played through Roon Rock accessing a NAS, Tidal and Qobuz. Can someone tried those combo share some All for around 60% of a price of a new XPS DR. NAP250. This also doesn’t interest me, as why buy naim if you feel after market so called up grades can do better. The highs with two (2) Hicap DR are smoother and less shouty than a single Hicap DR. My ears, my room, my system. A used Naim Fraim became available, so I purchased it. Before I travel to listen (it’s quite a journey) how would people describe I too am thinking of going the Teddy path. 5. at this level though rather than think about 1 or 2 hicaps, the source is where real musical gains and satisfaction are obtained for me. I tried a supercap on 202/napsc in place of a hicap DR and I didn’t like what it did. I have found that search can be your friend when searching for information on the forum. Also more better defined bass the louder you play. Here in Australia, the price difference between these 2 amps is $3,200 which seems massive as on paper I think one is 70wpc and the other 80wpc. Among other things, the fuse is there to protect against fire in the DR upgrade and service combined - by Naim - is £2499 IIRC. Didn’t bond with the 282. Scene set, I’m on the cusp of swapping out my dear friend the Supernait 2 for a Supernait 3. In the first instance I would ask a Naim dealer to demonstrate to you a 272/XPS/300 vs NDX2/XPS/SN3. The current setup has now settled down to a mix of a SN2 + HiCap DR + ND5 XS 2. Once I sell my Hicap DR I’ll need to get another SNAIC. So that is not to say that a Supercap DR won’t sound better on a Supernait 3 than a HiCap DR. Seriously, though. A Naim source worthy of a 252 deserves a separate power supply of its own, such as NDX2/XPSDR, Hence, as others have said, it can’t use a Supercap and needs to use either an XPS or 555PS if you’re wanting to upgrade it. I am converted. 250 Discon but there’s still a couple New Year, New Naim system, as the old saying goes. Hello to all I currently have a 282 powered by a HC DR. Those two gave my system a bigger overall lift than a 555PS alone would have. It will work with your current set up. As iconic as it is widely acclaimed, the SuperCap DR is a Naim Audio classic, capable of powering every preamplifier in our range except for the NAC-N 172 XS and our flagship, the NAC 552. N. Which units would be best to replace Imagine the permutations of tests on offer. Other found the former better. Been demoing a 252/supercap/300 at home. Dunc October 26, 2021, 11:48am 41. Its substantial toroidal transformer and high-quality smoothing capacitors combine to ensure improved timing, clarity and dynamic range from your favourite music. Ok, i don’t deny your preference. I don’t want to I currently have an Olive Supercap powering a NAC 72. What I found was some dr and some not doesn’t really sing/gel until the whole kit gets DR’d. Has anyone here had the chance to compare the NPX 300 and XPS DR power supplies in real life? What is your perspective? I am looking to add one of the two, with appropriate cables, to an NSC 222 > NAP 250 DR (80 Watt) system (There was a similar thread regarding applicability of these two power supplies to the NDX2, but it is now closed. No, that is so far out of my budget. Note Hi Naim fans, I have a NDX2, SN2 +HiCap through B&W 702 speakers. snarfy February 8, 2021, 6:26pm 1. Previously, I was planning on an urika and maybe a better sub chassis, then ended up with an 250DR! 🙂 So, I’m Should the protection fuse blow on any piece of Naim equipment, make sure you get the exact same make and type - this is important. Your Naim dealer can help, or else get in touch with Naim support. Receive a sneak The Teddy Pardo XPS really delivers on the nDAC, in my experience, especially for the price. I have gone on to use the XPS-DR with a NAC n272 and that works very well, so I don’t believe there is any problem with the XPS being out of spec. There are similar threads I know, as well as 1 vs 2 HICAPS on a NAC 282, but when I got the NAC 282 I envisaged a Supercap DR next, then a move to NAC 252. So it was a good value for money. Imo unless your going to DR your whole kit (maybe you have already I didn’t look) I wouldn’t. 5/Hicap combo. ). The longer term goal in mind is a sensible box count built around a new SN3 + eventually an NDX2 + an XPS DR even further out and as my appetite to add boxes waxes and wanes. Please get in touch with any questions and our dedicated team of experts will help in anyway they can. Guinnless August 25, 2019, 4:44pm 8. In retrospect the source I was using at the time – a CD2 – wasn’t good enough to demonstrate the difference. The addition of a 2nd Hi I have used both on my 272 and the difference between 272/XPS and 272/555 is much much greater than that between 272 and 272/XPS. Other wrote that 222/250 is at the level of Nd5xs2 / 202/ hicap / 250 dr. mathiourose February 13, 2024, XPS DR > NDX 2 > Hi-Line > SuperCap DR > NAC 282 > NAP 250 DR > NAC A5 > ProAc D30RS. Does anyone have experience of the NAC82 with both 2x HiCap and the Supercap, and any advice on whether the Supercap is worth the extra investment? (I'd be looking for Olive versions in each case) Just made my way back to Naim. I don’t know if the scdr is suitable for the Sn3. CDX Connection to Xps Power Supply. Posted on: 22 October 2018 by Bob the Builder Montone posted: Hey All, It’s coming up to the time for the next upgrade and wondering which way to go of many avenues. Is the 250DR worth almost 50% more than the 200DR and if so, what, other than the extra 10wpc, would I This is based on owning a Teddy Supercap, a Naim Hicap DR and a non-DR Supercap. Charteralpha March 9, 2021, My case is a little complicated as I have a XPS to power CDX2 /272&200DR/ProAc D20R combo & Hi-cap to power my Nait XS 2 /10s in my room, the £700 for a 202/NAPSC is a tempted exercise. All plugged into the same mains spur too. I just did the upgrade from Highcap DR to Supercap DR and have seen some FWIW, I was discussing PSs with my dealer regarding my NDX2/SN2 setup. Only one way to find out. Something was lacking vs Nds/555dr/ 252/250 dr. When you have already great products, 332 is like a 282 with two hicaps, 332 with npx 300 is like a 252 supercap. I listen to Ambient Music, Soundtracks (especially Soundtracks to Horror Films), Jamaican Dub, as well as Modern Classical. The Naim XPS DR therefore, is a bit niche, to say the least. ptcm10 It benefitted the supercap, NAP135s and 555PS as all were suffering from Naim Audio - Community Supernait 3 & ND5 XS-2 vs Separates. Regards, Lindsay. If you do decide to try a Supercap I’d strongly suggest that you also try the 282/250 setup. He’s owned Naim for as long as Currently under development is a module for the XPS power supply where the entire capacitor/regulator assembly is replaced by our own and at a cost only a fraction that of the DR model from Naim. And if you change your 72 for a 52 or 252 you will make more use of the power rails as stated by @suzywong. That said Having said that, I will certainly audition a Teddy Supercap at some point in the future as his XPS trounced my Naim XPS on my CDS2 so I sold the Naim unit and have never looked back (as is the case for several folk here). Supercap, 250, CDS2/XPS and Prefix/Supercap. Just strikes me that a 2nd hand Supercap could be just the thing to bring some good value improvement to the system vs the olive HICAPS, and could potentially allow a pre-upgrade too, it would also be DR upgradable assuming I could find a Supercap-2. no vocals). Worth trying the XPS on the 272 before you make any decisions anyhow! Naim The NAC 202 is the next step up from our entry-level NAC 152 XS, adding star-earthed circuit boards for superior transparency and an even lower resonance circuit layout. The Supercap DR was much better than my recently serviced, olive Supercap on the Superline. Everyone who has heard the new systems, presumably still not My Naim Nac 62 olive. Less sensation of drive and organic sound. I currently have an Olive Supercap powering a NAC 72. I would like to improve the system with one extra step with two option 1 to replace HICAP with Supercap DR or to replace the ND5XS2 with the NDX2 + XPS DR. good evening guys. 2. As suggested by @davidf. There are other options that many here use successfully. I started a thread a few weeks back wondering if a SuperCap DR would benefit my SN2, as I had a chance to get the PSU from a good friend at an unbeatable offer. The Naim XPS DR made the nDAC sound a bit artificial in comparison - it extended the frequency response and added detail, but I couldn't get past that added artificiality. alainbil February 13, 2024, 8:54pm 1. frenchrooster March 3, it has an XPS DR attached. Behind, on an Isoblue Hifi rack, is the SuperCap DR and the XPS DR, as well as the Cisco switch. The Supercap 2 was a decent upgrade from 2 olive hicaps which were both serviced. I have an 82, 2 x 135s CB and a Supercap 2, so mix of Olive, CB and black boxes for amplification. With a poor choice of capacitors. Naim Audio - Community Hi Cap Dr vs SuperCapDr on Snaxo 362. What amp are you using? You are a funny man. I currently have a ND5XS feeding an nDAC which has a non-Naim PSU attached. If you are tempted by an xpsconsider this as there are some deals out there. Only mixed one as far as I am aware is the 272 with is a streaming pre amp that uses the XPS though I am not sure what the XPS powers in that instance. I’m thinking CDX vs CD3. Over the past few months I’ve managed to source a set of separates as a step up from my Supernait 2, driving a pair of Shahinian Arc 2 loudspeakers. What sort of degree of uplift is the supercap over the hicap with Hello! I’m looking for an XPS DR to upgrade my NDX2. From a Hello to everybody I have Supernait 3 + HICAP DR and ND5XS2. More recently I have owned a Supernait 2/Hicap DR, ND5 XS and Naim DAC, and currently own a Superline/Supercap (non-DR), as well as a 72 and olive 250. I did move to a 252 shortly afterwards and after an initial ‘wobble’ have found that to be very worthwhile. I also have the original Naim SNAIC. Sources are CDX2/XPS, LP12 and ND5XS. It’s a I just replaced my NAP-200 for a NAP-250. Would a reasonably priced (and how much?) secondhand non-DR Supercap beat 2 olive HICAPs? I believe a Supecap can also be upgraded to DR specs. ) and the XPS digital products (CDP, Streamer, etc. 1 Like. dem1973 November 7, 2023, 12:03pm 1. As far as your DR inquirie. Speakers are QLN Signature and Dynaudio Audience 52SE. Naim Audio - Community nDAC (XPS2) + NAC202 (HiCAP) vs NSC222. e. khan84 January 27, 2019, 1:04pm 1. His power supplies are smooth and affordable. Well I have the Naim DAC playing in the background and it has been on since plugging in for the first time yesterday. 1 Hi - would appreciate thoughts on the following (I know the best option is to trial equipment but as I’m looking at used this wont be possible): Currently have Nac 272/ XPSDR/Nap 200DR/ Proac Tab 10 sigs. The Pardo Burndy is good but I'm reading Naim's is better but expensive. Whilst the XPS may be too far a stretch now, it could be worth holding off the Hi-Cap and diverting (some of!) the funds to an XPS later. I’m getting annoyed that I use it without a PSU and I think I don’t use its full potential. a non-DR SuperCap. Naim Audio SuperCap: P. Hi Friends I happen to be using the Naim system like this: CD Player : CDX Pre Amplifier : NAC-202 Power Supply for NAC-202 : NAPSC Power Amplifier : NAP Then forget the Supercap and get an XPS(DR). Good luck with your decision and enjoy the journey! 3 Likes. I have always wished my Naim XS-2 vs Exposure 3010 S2D would be an interesting comparison between the two integrated amplifiers similarly priced. Hi Jack, I was interested to see your comments regarding a supercap as like me you have a 282/200 combo. It is very common that Naim PSU/Amps will Hum/Buzz to a certain degree, and this is quite normal for toroidal transformers, so one option is to ignore it. Some even found the Begs the question NDX2/252/SC/250DR vs NDX2/XPS/SN 3. Hi @Alley_Cat, A supercap will always bring something to the show vs a Hicap but I’d guess SC/282 & Naxo/HC Would be the best bet initially. At this price point a different integrated amp may sound better than Naim Supernait 3 and Supercap DR combination. We all hear differently. 9% of my music is Instrumental Music (i. Sometimes I come across XPS2’s or the original XPS’s upgraded to DR, but I’m not sure if those are the same. can it be worth replacing the xps dr with a 555 ps dr on the ndx2? The PS just showed the fault was coming sooner than I would have noticed it from the internal CD player supply. Asking price of supercap is $3200 USD. However, this is not going to be a long HiFi Review; quite simply, without hyperbole, this Naim XPS DR upgrade is incredible. grant. The longer term goal in mind is a sensible box count built around a new SN3 + eventually an NDX2 + an XPS DR even further I added an XPS DR to my NDX2 and the different was immediate and substantial. It had nice sound quality but was underpowered for my needs. Pfalzmann November 23, 2021, 8:27pm 1. Hi-Fi Corner. 5k second hand); my A SuperCap DR is the last remaining piece of Naim kit I want. If I could, my next purchase would be the XPS DR. Dummies Questions I have never used an external power supply for anything other than a turntable, and can’t work out why Naim offer both the XPS and the SuperCap DR; in what way are they different? And AIUI I can’t use a HighCap DR on an NDX2; why not? TIA As it happens I’ve not upgraded to 252 but still happy I went with the Supercap. Antz March 31, 2020, 10:16am I wouldn’t hesitate to do it, and a XPS or 555PS can always come later. Not sure if I will get a 252 or not but most likely will try and jump to 552 and then use the SuperCap DR on my Headline which the relegated HiCap DR now powers. DR On Ndx2, the benefit of 555 dr vs xps dr is real, but not huge. currently my set up consists of: ndx2 with xps dr, 252 with supercap dr, 250 dr (300 dr on the way) and Focal above 2. I got a very good price on the 252 including 1 year warranty so cant complain too much - but where can i buy the right cable(s) ? I have seen Hi all. It’s been many years since I had a Naxo so couldn’t reliably comment on the difference to the Snaxo but common wisdom is that the Snaxo is quite an NDX2, XPS DR, NAC 282, HiCap DR, NAP 250, Focal Aria 926, shawline x speaker cable, all other interconnects are standard. But they are rather hard to come by in the states lately. I haven’t tried the 555 DR, as it is very expensive and half of it would not be utilised (which would frustrate me). However, I had a strong preference for the olive supercap over the SCDR on the 52. How does the treble compare between the Supercap DR, 2 x Hicap DR and 1 x Hicap DR, specifically the tone of the piano. So I went to pick it up to audition it and he springs on me how after so many years he’s decided to go full-on with a different secondary system (all tubes) and streaming platform. If you a search on this forum 202 vs 282 you will get lots of information about Great for future upgrades too with Hicap(s) and even Supercap. I Ditto the Naim vs Teddycap vs Avondale vs CHC in all variants Hicap, Supercap on 282, 252 etc. The 82+supercap was clearly better than 82+hi-cap, though. The MiniTeddyCap is a perfect match for Naim's vintage preamps, NAC 252 + supercap (not DR) I just bought NAC 252 + supercap (not DR) and am very happy with it. The XPS2 is virtually the same as the olive xps apart from the transformer, which was designed specifically for the voltage requirements of the CDS3 (and CDS2). We were not Naim dealers at the time when ‘olive’ was replaced by what came to be known as ‘Classic’ but we know it was a big deal. This is connected by WH Morgana to an SN3, Kudos KS1 to Spendor d7. O. Does it make any discernable difference if it’s a brand new or newly used XPS DR or any of the upgraded XPS2’s or original XPS’s to DR? Off to my local dealer tomorrow to audition a Supercap to pair with my 282, which I currently run with a Hicap. Anyone can share the experiences about pre-amp NAC252 paring with SuperCap 2 vs SuperCap DR? How difference between those two powersupply while driving NAC252 pre-amp I’ve read through the white paper and completely understand why Naim would want to keep ahead of developments and improve their new offerings. This is my HiFi Review of the Naim XPS DR, it is a power supply to numerous Naim Classic and other sources in the Naim ranges. Naim recommend 6-7 weeks to fully burn in. I was curious if it is a a significant increase in sound quality and worth the cost given my current hicap is a DR version. I think i will end up It also extended and solidified the bass. This sits on a Hifi Podium rack with the XPS on the bottom shelf and the NDX2 on the top. Naim Audio - Community Olive Supercap vs Flatcap XS. I have an 82 with Supercap 2. Apr Can a NAC 52 that began life being powered by a 52PS also be powered by a Supercap, or does the NAC 52 have to modified before it can be powered by a Supercap? Naim Audio - Community 52PS vs Supercap question. Essentially the SC powers analogue (pre amps, etc. I hope to post my detailed impressions regarding my journey away from Naim pretty soon, but for the time being can anybody chime in on any experience they may have had between these 2 power supplies. The TP's are more dynamic! but the Naim's are more natural and musical - more Naim like. Hi, everyone. Is this a Naim dealer? Get the streamer you want to end up with first. You can only use the XPS/555 range on the nDAC. Funny If you want to stick with Naim I would go for. Note that according to the Naim Audio schema, power I’ve been listening with an olive 82 and Supercap for 25 years. Add a XPS for my NDX and a SuperCap for my 282 or a new NDX2? Thanks. The official statement used to read “Olive Series XPS power supplies should never be paired with an NDX network player as this has the potential to cause the Olive XPS to overheat, damaging the product. Hi there, I own the Uniti Atom HE and want to buy an external amplifier to drive my Buchardt S400 MK II speakers. 252 with 300DR I will have to buy a Supercap for this. 3 XPS Rear multiple power output 555 PS, SuperCap and XPS mains input and fuse Note: The 555 PS can be used to power the CD555, CDS3 Buyer really wants a 252/SuperCap but can’t afford/justify it just yet so Buys a 282 powered by a HiCap, then Buys a SuperCap to power the 282 via two SNAIC’s, then thinks Sod it, now I’ve got the SuperCap I might as well go the full hog and get the 252. I searched the forum before writing, but I couldn’t get my head around it with what I found. The SuperCap can be used to power all of the Naim preamplifiers (except the NAC 552), Superline phono stage and active crossovers, and is the only choice for supplying power to the NAC 252 preamplifier. Sign In Upload. It provides for a wide range of expansion and upgrade options, including connection to a StageLine phonostage and an AV bypass connection to an external AV amplifier. It will improve your streaming and amplification as it works on both fronts. Trust me the nerds of naim have got it down to a fine art. I bought the XPS DR used. jpeg 4032×3024 2. I experimented with multiple TP units over the years that I owned Naim systems and found that in general there is a difference in sound, though not necessarily one being better than the other. Hi-Fi Centre Vancouver Crafted for top end performance, Naim Audio is a UK-based audio equipment manufacturer. Now I have the opportunity to buy a used 252 at a sensible price. One highly respected Naim dealer says on their website “ and if the choice of upgrade is this or a better source component, Naim NAC 272 vs NAC 282 : Thoughts On Which Is a hierarchy from the 282 but is also largely filled with empty space as it draws its power from the compulsory external Supercap (DR, in my case). Alternatively, I could sell all my current streaming kit for about £2000 and buy a used The napsc is needed to make the 282 work, so I wouldn’t ditch that. from what i understand. 2 SuperCap Rear socket 1 socket 2 4 socket 3 socket 5 NAC 252, SuperLine or SNAXO only NAC 252 only +ve-ve +ve ch1 ch2 Socket 1 +ve-ve +ve nc nc Socket 2 ch2-ve ch1 nc Socket 3, 4 & 5 mains input and fuse 4. Naim replaced the CD player mechanism and the dimming naim logo, all was good after that. They power different components so the use of one does not make the other redundant. There are some good offers on used NDX2s and Nac 282s at the moment and I am considering swapping the 272 for the NDX2 and 282. LindsayM August 4, 2020, 4:24pm 33. Very, very pleased but if anyway possible I’d appreciate even a bit more detail and directness. Something like that Naim SuperCap DR Power Supply Each of the multiple power outputs on the SuperCap uses Naim's specially designed discrete regulators for optimum performance. I’m of the mindset of upgrading my source component (LP12), but with so many areas to improve, I’m at another one of those ‘which way first’ moments. The CDPS has two transformers and is effectively a digital power supply and a dual-polarity Flatcaps, Hicaps and Supercaps are for powering pre amplifiers, phono stages and active crossovers. If your end goal is 282/hicap/250 then you can get there 1 box at a time. 2 Likes. Nat 01 Connection to Napst Power Supply. 5/Hicap was easily won by the former, when I tried Naim Audio streaming preamplifier offering uncompromising sound quality, SuperCap DR Nap 300 DR Snaxo 362 Snaxo 242 NAC 252 NAC 282 XPS DR JOIN THE COMMUNITY. I’ve had the 82 serviced and it sounds very very good with my system: 2 x 135s, I had a CDS2 with XPS and that sounded great. Both a 552 and a 252 really merit a more capable source than a bare NDX2. 5k second hand); my question is the New DR worth it, or, should I start with an XPS and have the upgrade later. My understanding is this should come with the 252. He said, he’d recommended the XPS DR with the NDX2 first, even if Hi all, Trying to decide between the Hi-CAP DR or a SuperCAP DR for my upcoming SN3 purchase. Doing so is extremely dangerous. I prefer to stay with Naim as I think they provide some good frequency synergy, I would like to put the Naim Hi-Cap DR (or the Naim Supercap DR if I decide for this, The only way to answer your question is to try the SN3 by itself, with a Hicap DR and with a Supercap DR. They are great products, not harsh like Naim p. The Supercap is for Preamps,Crossovers and phono stages. But if you can't stretch to a naim, then TP is a great way to get 80% off the sound, just not the full Did you consider the 555PS as well, I’m thinking the XPS is a more balanced approach with my SN2. The Pardo was also dramatically more affordable than the XPS DR at new pricing (especially in the US, where Naim new pricing is absurd). Not Main differences between the Olive Supercap and the Classic/Reference Supercap (pre DR); chassis, fascia, logo, sleeve cover, switch, feet. Mr Pig ^'- -'^ Oct 24, 2020 FWIW I did audition a bare NDX2 against one powered by Naim XPS DR and then a 555 power supply and concluded that the biggest change came from the addition of the XPS. 38 MB. I just did the upgrade from Highcap DR to Supercap DR and have seen some improvements but not night and day. XPS2 is how it has commonly been referred to by most people in order to distinguish it from earlier models, in much the same way as people also refer to the later Classic NAP250 and the Have seen previous now closed threads on this but due to foolishness I have anded up with a 252 and a supercapDR from a well know auction site and no connecting burndy. My ND555 had to go back to Naim for a screen fault, so I have a new one which is only 2 days old, but I still think it’s far ahead of my old 272/XPS/250 system musically. My current system: cds2/xps, 01, 52/supercap, 135’s driving my Kudos Titan T88’s All boxes serviced by AV I traded in my old Naim pieces (52, Supercap, CDS2, XPS, 135’s and SBL’s along with a Linn Sondek TT several years ago and ended up with a ND5XS2 and a Supernait 3 which I’ve been happy with for a while. I didn’t test Sarum T i/c vs Super Lumina, but the upgrade price from Chord was much more attractive, so I went that route. Being a new unit it does need some time to settle in and perform at it's best. The speakers are the only part of my original system left. In time, I do want to add pre / power combo in placement of the SN2 and then of course, a When I ran a NDX 2 with a SN 2 I found the XPS DR the upgrade with the most impact for the improvement on sound quality. My advice to you is that a 282, Hicap DR and 250DR would be a far better amplifier than a Supernait 3 / Supercap DR. The same for 300 series. My current set up (with vintage) is: Naim NDX streamer (2011), Naim 252 (2015), Supercap (2011), NAP 250 (1998, reconditioned in 201 Naim Audio - Community Upgrade streamer or I would consider an option where you DR the SuperCap and add a XPS DR to the NDX (or better, get NDX2 and XPS DR). 1) Naim PSU/Amps will Hum/Buzz. I listened during 2 hours a full 300 series with 2 X 300 ps. Can a If I had a 272 with XPS DR I would not upgrade to 282/HCDR either, it’s not really worth all the hassle. Two questions I have / looking for advice on. 99. I bought both a XPS-DR and – a month or so later – a SuperCap DR. After 6 months of my system being boxed and stored because of a move over the weekend I started unboxing and reassembling the 300,Supercap,282 when I powered up the 300 I heard a power surge in only the left speaker that sounded like a 2 Well the sound you get from have a naim power supply on a naim bit off gear is just better as it should be really, it just all clicks. I’ll find it difficult to do a back to back comparison with the now discontinued non DR HiCap. After all; less difference than I I recently added an XPS DR to my NDX2. SuperCap service PLUS six (6x) Avondale TPR4 dual precision regulators upgrade installed: Naim Audio 52PS: If you are able to listen at a dealers before you buy I would compare what an XPS DR vs Hi-Cap brings to the system. Farthings @GrahamS and @anon39880737 at the moment I really don’t have space for a Supercap or an XPS DR. The Supercap dr on 282 is not always preferred to hicap dr for 282. I’ve found this type of “mod” gives but takes more. Go for the 250DR and keep the 272 in the meantime. I want to go with separates and I am currently using a set-up consisting of 282/HiCap Dr/250 Dr/NDX 2/XPS Dr. Hi Naim Community - need your counsel. Having enjoyed being an Internet idler for the past couple of days, reading this and several other threads across various fora, I am still not really any the wiser as to whether to reach up to a new 222/300/250 upgrade, or perhaps update, to my 272/XPS DR/250 DR system which I’ve enjoyed for several years. I have to say there really isn’t a house sound out there that I prefer more from amplification than that of Naim Audio. ” What the difference was in the circuits I never knew. Came across a NAP 250 DR and am currently using to preamp from the Supernait thru the 250 into Graham LS 5/9. Manuals; Brands; NAIM Manuals; Stereo System; SUPERCAP; NAIM SUPERCAP Manuals. Wonder if anyone has tried an XPS DR (or Supercap) on the NAT05XS?!! The difference was significant enough to make me think that the upgrade was worthwhile. harris July 21, 2022, 3:38pm 1. 2 vs NAP300 (I preferred 250. And the uplift will not be so transformative. I have enjoyed my ProAc speakers and the D30R or D48R speakers would be something you may enjoy. Once I recover from this weekend’s purchase pf a preloved XPS I plan to start keeping my eyes out for one. I am using a Teddy XPS with my CDS2, and a Dual Teddy Cap with my 82. Sometimes less is that in my own setup, with some time I might have preferred the 272/XPS vs 202/TeddyCAP but the couple of Naim SuperCap DR Power Supply Each of the multiple power outputs on the SuperCap uses Naim's specially designed discrete regulators for optimum performance. But realistically a supernait 2 is all the amp you’d ever really need. Do that before making changes to the I currently have good cdp (non-naim) into nDAC into 282 into 250. Of course the second option is much more expensive but which is according your experience the best move in ? Thanks your your System is Ndx2 Nac 252 + Supercap 2 Nap 300 DR Naim Fraim Lite B&W 804 D3 Speakers Just wondering is it worth getting the XPS upgrade for the NDX2 Cos got to be honest it sounds pretty amazing as is! Hello , I’m in Hong Kong right now for a while and hearing some nice systems here. Few options there. I just bought a secondhand Supercap DR to upgrade my 282. I don't want to start a debate on running in but over I have a XPS DR > NDX 2 > 282 > 250DR and it sounds awesome. Naim’ers Got a NDX2, Supercap DR, 282, 250DR with Sonus Faber Cremona M and Chord Sarum T speaker cable. Even if I had the funds for a 555PS I still would have gotten the XPS and a SuperCap DR instead. Although moments sounded stunning, involving and there is a sweet spot below separates if you have a great source. Go for the 282 I know I did no regret,my source cdx/2 xps/2. There are threads here discussing the virtues of a pair of hicaps vs a supercap with a 282. They have the same character, I do find the 250 a little bit more relaxed and with a more focused and sharp? image. Hi Naim Reading about some users’ frustrations with setting up their NAIM racks- balls falling out of cups and the like, (NAC252) and power amp (NAP250 DR) on an Isoblue rack, and I had my Naim power supplies (XPS DR, SuperCap DR) on a Quadraspire SVT Performance rack. A. This is with a view to hopefully replacing the 282 with a 252 in a couple of years time when finances allow. I could buy a used ND5XS2 for about £1750 and sell the ND5XS for £500 - total outlay £1250. Can anyone explain in simple terms, please, the internal differences between the (Olive) NAP250 and the NAP135. Welcome to the The new products will supplant NAC 282, NAC 252, NAP 250DR, Superline, XPS DR, HiCap DR and Supercap DR so these are all approaching end of life, even though some of the replacements How much different would a non-DR SuperCap be than just adding a second HC DR, i. Naim Audio - Community Supernait 3 + Supercap DR. If I felt I’d get a meaningful improvement to the SN3 I’d be willing to add a Supercap to it, primarily to see what the best PSU’s Naim offer can do to maximise the performance of the SN3. I was hoping to make it a stepping stone to a 252 but I couldn’t have lived with the sound in my system for the 1-2years I would need it before I could have afforded the 252. Try the XPS on the 272 instead of the CDX2. Naim Audio - Community XPS for NDX (plus SuperCap) or NDX2. I notice a subtle improvement in definition and texture, but am disappointed considering the outlay. ] Cheers! To those who have compared the Supercap DR to the Hicap DR on the NAC 282, questions as follows:-1. However, I’m sure many on here have listened to both. B. They replace the original products: HiCap, FlatCap, SuperCap and XPS. I can’t imagine that an SN2-as-pre could beat it or even come close to it, but I’ve never made the comparison. Of course if you get a SC you can experiment with the combinations. Hi All, I When i have run snaxo’s in my system, i always had a supercap, so I can’t really give anymore info. 252 is discon but sounds real good. If you can afford one, you won't regret it. 4. It was brilliant. The question is, is the HiCap DR a worthwhile . Afternoon all - my 82/Supercap combination is trickling down to System #2 and will connect with 2 x 250s. I am considering now either a SuperCap Dr to replace the HiCap or replace the I don’t for one minute think Naim are in trouble on the development front. But it is overkill at the price point. In an all Naim system, a 300 should, to my mind, be fronted by something like NDX/XPS/252/Supercap to really show its full potential. Naim Audio - Community 250/282 or xps dr. The XPS is effectively a dual-polarity Supercap. supplies. Teddy Pardo does a version, I have his supercap and it out performs the Naim one slightly and is a lot cheaper, worth thinking about . Having just replaced my 25 year old NAP 180 with a (used) NC250, I’m now looking to improve the front end. Naim Audio - Community 82/Supercap vs 82/2 x HiCaps. 282 with 250DR Here I will have to buy 1/2 HiCap which are easier to buy in the 2nd hand. Shop I am in the process of figuring out if I should get PS555 or PS555DR ? Planning to use it for Naim Ndac and CDS3. But it’s not my case, for me the 222/300/250 is more hifi than musical as Ndx2/ XPs dr / 282/hicap/250 dr. Naim - We have a fantastic selection of Naim available in store and online. Naim has DACs in the AV pre amps and in the Supernait and we will see a Well, the 555PS was not on my radar. If you do a search using the term “upgrade XPS DR or HiCapDR” you will find 31 threads to read through. I replaced the 2 Hi-caps with a Supercap on my 82 and found a big improvement in SQ. The 52 was the biggest inpovement with a naim supercap, but both the superline and snaxo weren't far behind. You could just smarten up the front end. NDX2 XPSDR 252 Supercap 250DR *extra box which you don’t want. How does it sound with the Supercap DR. FWIW, my Olive xps hums but the supercap and 135 amps do not. 28FF3A5C-AEC9-463F-AA99-6B40F14A2409. I’m sticking with my SN2/HiCap/NDX2/XPS DR, which to me, sounds wonderful and is expensive From the main thread ( new classic range) and this one, we can read such different and sometimes opposite views that it became quite pointless to follow. Streaming Audio. Would I notice much of a difference if I Naim’ers Got a NDX2, Supercap DR, 282, 250DR with Sonus Faber Cremona M and Chord Sarum T speaker cable. One thing that you may want to consider is taking the transformer from the CDPS (the excellent and quiet Holden & Fisher) and replacing the newer and audibly noisier transformer in the SuperCap or XPS. I therefore don’t know if it betters Super Lumina, but I am happy. It’s the same thing with the SuperCap on a 282 but it really doesn’t matter because the uplift in performance is so good that you soon forget Nothing in the Naim tuner range gets close to NAT-01, I’ve heard a few & been very tempted if it wasn’t for the FM switch off threat, but that seems to have past now so if I see one, who knows. Apparently all the higher end Naim kit is going up in price on 1st September, so hoping to beat the price hike! Be interested to know the thoughts of anyone Forum members, I have an opportunity to purchase a 9/10 rated 2011 supercap non-DR. What are your thoughts on these , some I’d buy 2nd hand. And where do I find the shelves and cables for Replacing the XPS with the 555PS DR to the NDX2 was possibly/probably the most significant improvement I have made. I use the same NAC-152XS and Flatcap XS as preamplifier. It will uplift the Cdx2 to a whole new level. What is the best path forward. Having very limited space in my room I realized I don’t have a proper space to put a PSU for my nDAC. At my local naim dealer I borrowed a nac 282, and I remember the difference was a huge step up in sound. It does have its own internal power supply, so can be used standalone too. Well, as it turns out getting a XPSDR and SCDR for my NDX2, instead of a 555PS, proved to be the smart move. I don't have a Teddy Hicap so cannot compare them It's 1/3 the price and I would really want to know how good it is compared to the Naim XPS and what's the difference in terms of sound quality and which one they prefer? A. I recently added an XPS DR in place of an XPS and was the final piece of my DR jigsaw. Some found the 222/300/250 inferior to Ndx2 / 282/ hicap / 250 dr. I have a feeling that the XPS DR will be the more significant upgrade as it’s on the source. The MiniTeddyCap is a new, compact-sized power supply for Naim preamps and integrated amplifiers. I assume that a comment Started my Naim journey with a Supernait 3. You can then improve your current amplification with either an additional hicap dr or a supercap dr, or a 252 and supercap dr. Current pre-Amp and PS is 102/HiCap into the Power Amps with no problem but I have always felt the sound is slightly strangled. analogmusic pfm Member. I’ve read the rave reviews of the 282/250(DR) over many years and now that I have them in place, I can confirm for myself that the level of clarity, weight, detail, and overall quality is quite obvious. Thinking of an upgrade to an xps dr on the ndx2 or go up a notch to a 282/250 dr. 6. I sent it back. I have both Naim's and Teddy Pardo's 4 and 5 pin SNAIC's. The 282 can also be powered by 2 hicaps, and by a single supercap. Also, from your post it appears that you have a plan of upgrading from the 272/XPS DR to 252/Supercap instead of exploring the 555 PSU with the 272. I tried this out many years ago and stayed with the CD3. Feeling much like an idiot right now so I’m asking for any help i can get to tell I haven’t screwed up royally. It becomes a problem if it is so loud that it becomes annoying, in which case investigate the areas below. IainO November 4, I would look at more like an NDX2/XPS or NDX2/555PS with a 52/Supercap or 282/Hicap and your planned 250DR. XPS dr first. And no,afaik you can not use the Supercap to power the CDX. The only i thought the addition of a hiCAP and then a hiCAP DR didn’t really do much but the addition of the supercap is a complete revelation of course it’s a bit much and not the entire CAP is utilized but it has totally transformed my modest 12 year old integrated used to listen around 11 to 12 and now at 1 or 2 o’clock (dial), imaging, pace, bass notes coming through for With all the posts asking about one or two HiCaps vs 1x SuperCap to power the NAC282, it got me wondering if the SuperCap could somehow (with an appropriate cable) Naim-SuperCap-DR-Rear-View_5b4eb154-5c70-49fb Naim Audio - Community Speaker Recommendations. Thinking of adding an XPS (second hand c£1,600-1,800) or XPSDR (north of £3. NEVER be tempted to bypass or “uprate” the equipment fuse. Hope this helps, BF. Has anyone And you may also read here some hyperboles about the 222, some saying that it beats Ndx2/ 252/ Supercap. 2 at the dealer), Supercap vs Hicap, CDS3 vs SA7-S1+nDAC, XPS on nDAC, 252 vs 282, etc. Is the NAC282 + 2 x Hicap, NAC282 + Supercap. But that’s a I want to ask your advice about comparing a NDX/nDAC and Hi-Cap DR with SN2 system (the system I currently have) vs NAC 272 and XPS-DR with SN2 system. CDX/XPS vs CD3. I changed to a Supercap DR to my 282/HiCapDR/300DR setup and it was a useful improvement but I could have happily stayed with the HiCap DR. That’s 6 boxes, which I’d say is the absolute maximum you want on a single stack. zmc ijnet wcva sxn vzsfz latne cner juze gvgnaw ckkc